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Contents 1 Cleanup requested 2 Titling? 3 Steve and God 4 Newspaper ad 5 Frank Zappa 6 Better picture 7 Guinness listing

[edit] Cleanup requested

While the factual content of the article is fine, it needs to be rewritten. Too many short paragraphs, sentences left hanging and redundancy (e.g. look how many paragraphs start with 'Allen was' or 'He was'). Somebody needs to swallow this one whole and spit it back out again. --BluePlatypus 14:42, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Titling?

I would have to argue that this article should be found at Steve Allen, and the disambiguation page at that page currently should be moved to Steve Allen (disambiguation). thoughts? TheHYPO 07:32, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that Steve Allen should be turned into a redirect to Steve Allen (comedian), with a link to a dab page at Steve Allen (disambiguation). That way the history of the article at Steve Allen (comedian) will be maintained. --Daniel Olsen 21:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Why hasn't this been done yet? Move Steve Allen to the disambig page, and then create a new Steve Allen which redirects to SA (comedian). Daniel, you signed up for disambiging Steve Allen, go make the changes. Simon12 03:19, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steve and God

"Allen was a secular humanist and Humanist Laureate for the Academy of Humanism, a member of CSICOP and the Council for Secular Humanism." This is followed by this line a few paragraphs later... "In later years, Allen had speaking engagements at which he refered to himself as an 'involved Presbyterian'." This seems rather odd. TKelly 01:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

There was clearly some evolution in Steve's thinking here, as evidinced by his support of World Govt early in his career, but providing the introducting for Free to Choose, a show by Conservative economist Milton Freedman. This evolution could be spun up into an interesting paragraph.

[edit] Newspaper ad

"Coincidentally, a full-page ad on the subject appeared in newspapers a day or two before his unexpected death." I'm not sure what the relevance of this is. Did he write the ad? Was it about his involvement in the organization? 128.119.243.24 16:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC) Chris Hoffmann

• Yes. Wahkeenah 00:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
• I have that ad at home. I kept it because I'd heard Howard Stern on occasion grousing about Allen; Allen evidently despised Howard Stern, although Howard'd had him on his old NBC show. Allen was a very funny guy, but he was not profound & like too many self-styled secular humanists, he flirted with fascism, i.e., censorship, when it was to his advantage. 138.162.128.56 12:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Frank Zappa

Didn't he appear on The Steve Allen Show in the late 50's and play a bicycle? There should be something about that. Guest 20:20, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

• Find a source. Wahkeenah 03:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better picture

Lets have a picture that shows them for the actractive couple they were in their salad days. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 214.16.41.245 (talk) 21:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Guinness listing

The article states that Allen composed about 10,000 songs. Regardless of the number, I'm sure that at some point he was listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the person having composed the most songs, but this fact is not mentioned. Richard K. Carson (talk) 06:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)