Talk:Stetson University College of Law

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The school's website says SU College of Law, not SU Law School. Is there something I'm missing, or does the name need to be changed? Aboutmovies 05:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Several points. First, whether you type in SU College of Law into the search field or SU Law School, it will take you to this website, so searching is not a problem. Second, most, if not all law, schools (more than 300 of them) in U.S. are actually "colleges of law" associated with the universities whose names they use. Consequently, most, if not all, law schools, such as those at Yale or Harvard, are all technically "Harvard--College of Law" or "Yale--College of Law" since there wouldn't originally have been a law school without Harvard University or Yale University home school. All law schools are created as part of the universities and are thus often termed as "colleges of law" associated with the university. (Same with business schools, i.e., school of business administration.) However, law school "colleges" at universities are commonly called just law schools with the name of the university they are associated with at front, not as "colleges of law." For example, when you refer to Harvard's "college of law," you frequently say Harvard Law School, or when you refer to Yale's "college of law," you frequently, if not all of the time, will say something like, "I know someone who goes to Yale Law School." Consequently, yes, the law school at Stetson is a "college of law" associated with Stetson University, but when referring to Stetson's "college of law," one would ordinarily say Stetson Law School or Stetson University Law School. Also, note that when referring to law schools in general, you say "I'm looking around the nation for a good law school to go to," you don't say "I'm looking to go to a good college of law." While some law school websites refer to themselves just as "________ ________ Law School," or are more deferential to their home universities and use "________ ________ College of Law" on their websites, all are commonly just call themselves ""_________ __________ Law School." So, to sum up, no, nothing needs to be changed as far as the name of the school is concerned. It's Stetson Law School or Stetson University Law School or Stetson University College of Law or Stetson College of Law or Stetson Law or College of Law at Stetson University or College of Law at Stetson. These are all interchangable. If you're intersted, please visit some of the law school entries for other universities to compare. (RossF18 03:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC))
I know all this as I attend Willamette University College of Law where most merchandise is Willamette Law and that is the common name. But the CoL is the official, which normally is what is used with artilces with re-directs from other common usages. A good place to start is, with any entity, their official website. With this school, it says SU CoL. So that should probably be the case here, otherwise if you want common usage why not just Stetson Law? And if you take a moment to look at the article you may notice that both the infobox title and the official logo inside it say SUCoL (normally the infobox should match the article title). Also, three of the four (the wikimapia I did not open) external links on the page then list the school as SUCoL. Honestly, my question about the name was more sarcastic/rhetorical in nature as the page should be SUCoL. I was simply curious if maybe they recently changed their name. If they have not changed the name, then it should be SUCoL.
BTW, I know they all will get to the page, that's how I found it when I was linking a former prof's bio as the source I was using said SUCoL.
As to your other points, no. Do some research. Not all law schools started as parts of universities (see Lewis & Clark Law School for one I know that is near me), nor are all affiliated with universities (see Phoenix School of Law, California Western School of Law, Concord Law School, Lincoln Law School (Sacramento, CA), Lincoln Law School of San Jose, San Francisco Law School, Southwestern Law School, Thomas Jefferson School of Law, to name a few just through CA on the List of law schools in the US where Stetson is listed as SUCoL). Additionally, Harvard Law School is Harvard Law School as shown on their webpage, as are many schools. Not all were or are _______ _______ College of Law.
Interesting common usgae point, but again no. People say they drive a Ford, but that's not the article name. Same with say working for Disney, shopping at Target, or going to Harvard. All of these common names redirect to the official name of the entity (if you need more let me know and I'll but on my Nike's and run to my HP and use my Oregon State education to search for some more). Aboutmovies 05:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Your points are valid. However, please note that I did say "most, if not all" when I refered to schools being part of universities. There is no point to bite my head off for not doing sufficient research. I admitted this by stating "most" since I had not done the research. If this was rhetoric question, please don't hesitate to change the name to the official one, making sure that the links for everything still work. If you do not wish to edit, but were just pointing this out, well, then what can I say. (RossF18 15:03, 21 April 2007 (UTC))