Talk:Stephen Krashen

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[edit] Restoring What Was Lost

In reviewing the edit history for this article, it seems that this article was initially developed by over two dozen editors from September 2002 through October 2006. On October 23, 2006, a single user, Jeffmacswan, added large amounts of text, broadly expanding the article. The article continued to be edited by other users until July 15, 2007, when Jeffmacswan deleted almost all of the text of the article with the edit note, "Very sorry; I wrote this entry for the Encycopedia of Bilingual Education (forthcoming) and put up a related version here, but the publisher objected. I have therefore deleted it. Hope others will do." At the very least, shouldn't the article have been restored to its pre-Jeff state? A lot of people who aren't Jeff contributed to this article and right now, their work is lost. If no one objects, I'd like to reincorporate the pre-Jeff information. Jlwelsh 02:46, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Edits

I changed "silly" back to "important". "Silly" is really not a neutral term and involves a judgement call. We could add that Krashen is heavily criticized for his views, or that he is thought of as simplistic, but lets not call him silly.

I also added information on the difference between "learning" and "acquisition". I'm not an expert in this area, but i felt it was important to get this down and hopefully we can clean it up a bit in the future.

Theolad 12:00, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] i + 1

I seem to recall learning his theory as "n + 1" rather than "i + 1". Anyone else? Stevage 12:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ultimately, the choice of letter is rather arbitrary. I think I've heard it most commonly as "L + 1," i.e. "level plus one," which actually seems to make a bit more sense than "i + 1." However, "i" is the letter used by Krashen in his 1982 book, and presumably elsewhere. -- Visviva 16:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
If it's in his book, that sounds pretty definitive. Also, anyone know if the term "Krashen bashin'" has achieved enough currency to rate a mention? Stevage 07:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Surprisingly few Google hits for that; I'd have to say no, unless there are some offline reliable sources that use or discuss the term. -- Visviva 07:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikifying

This article could use some subject divisions (history, theory, opposition). A bibliography would also help.

[edit] Picture

Any way we could scale down or crop that picture? It's awfully large.

Better now? -- Visviva 07:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assistant Professor at Queens College

Krashen was an assistant professor at Queens College (CUNY) which is not mentioned here. I took a course he offered in 1973 or 1974.

[edit] Notability

This character really is not notable. What has he done? What third party gives an credence to his activity? — Chris53516 (Talk) 05:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, why would you call him a character? According to a quick search of mine including journals he would be notable enough. I've just added his publication list, but it might need someone more familiar with the subject matter to expand and source the article. --Tikiwont 15:10, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
"Character" was used because I don't know if he's real, and the picture has not source information, so it could be just made up. Just because someone has published stuff or because they appear many times in a search engine doesn't make them notable. See the notability guidelines. — Chris53516 (Talk) 23:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
He was inducted into the International Reading Association's Reading Hall of Fame. That's a well-established and respected organization within the field. If he satisfies their criteria for inclusion in the RHoF, he is a notable academic by Wikipedia standards. Jlwelsh 01:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)