Talk:Steel Valley (Ohio-Pennsylvania)

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[edit] Merge

NO, I don't think these two articles should be merged because Columbiana and Lawrence counties are not part of the 3 county metropolitan area (according to US Census Bureau) of Youngstown, Ohio. If they were, the population would be over 1,000,000 (real pop. is only around 700,000) and would rate one of the top metropolitan areas. It is only sixth or seventh metropolitan area in the state, with Youngstown only being the eighth largest city in the state of Ohio. I do not think these two articles should be merged. Jordanrschroeder 23:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. There is absolutely no reason to merge. They are two different things. I honestly don't even see the need for the Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH-PA Metropolitan Area article. The information is completely taken from a few other articles and is entirely redundant. I actually think we should delete the new article. --Daysleeper47 13:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, NO, I think we should keep Youngstown-Warren-Bordman, OH Metropolitan Area because it is the "official" name created by the US Census Bureau and Steel Valley is only a nickname for the area. So if you want to talk FACTS -- I think we should keep the metropolitan area title instead of the "Steel Valley" or keep both seperate. Jordanrschroeder 23:07, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Steel Valley to Pennsylvanians is not Youngstown

I understand there are bluffs and elevations in the Mahoning(sp) but the "VALLEY" of steel is south of Pittsburgh, many literary and news sources say as much. This is where Carnegie made his fortune and where some of the world's greatest mills were. As well as the watershed in U.S. labor law and history with the famed Homestead strike of 1892. I will start a disambig page but I really think sources need to be cited over and above those claiming the upper Ohio Valley/Monongahela Valley as not the "Steel Valley". Thank you. Hholt01 23:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Youngstown has the Steel Valley Conference, a high school athletic conference. That cements it right there! --Daysleeper47 02:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That's like me naming myself President, isn't that determined by the same people that live in the area? I can see how that is a nice thing to mention but it is as much proof positive as Wikipedia citing an article on Wikipedia as justification to state something on Wikipedia. If you do a google search you will see that many more results come up as from Duquesne, Homestead, McKeesport and Pittsburgh, Pa. then in Ohio. The difference I feel is that not only do more things around Pittsburgh refer to "Steel Valley" (as well as a school district) but that Pittsburgh has the "Rivers of Steel" National heritage area designated by Washington D.C., something that is Nationally recognized as valleys that have "rivers of steel" thus Steel Valley. Interested in any national or regional facts that would support a claim by Youngstown area. When you say Steel Valley in the state of Pennsylvania (even nearby Sharon) it almost always means the lower Ohio and Mon.Hholt01 22:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I happen to believe Steel Valley refers to the area along the Mon, just south of Pittsburgh, more so than it does anywhere else in the world! Youngstown area might have a "Steel Valley" football conference and may also be known as such, but a stronger and more researched argument can be made for the Pittsburgh area having the Wiki namesake.--Write On 1983 16:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Now you have yours (Steel Valley (Pittsburgh)) and I have mine (Steel Valley (Youngstown)). This conversation is being copied to the Pittsburgh article.--Daysleeper47 17:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC).