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1 Ray's home
2 Future of Steamboy
3 UK DVD release date wrong
4 Afd, July 2004
5 Nods vs. references
6 Scarlett O'Hara
7 Come and read my suggestion
8 Anna Paquin voicing Ray in the US dub
9 Plot
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Steamboy.jpg
11 Plot synopsis

[edit] Ray's home

Ray is from Manchester. In the begining of the story he lives there, and only goes to london after he was kidnapped. --ZeWrestler 22:29 March 25, 2005.(UTC)

[edit] Future of Steamboy

This article, describing the slideshow at the end, was created by an editor with unfortunately more enthusiasm than sense. Should it be merged? Deleted? If the content is to remain in use it needs to be fixed up, which I can't do as I don't own the movie, so I'll leave the decision to someone who does. --Kizor 06:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I just merged it.--Kross ^Talk 21:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Thx. --Kizor 10:50, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Reformatted and mostly rewritten. --MacSpon 11:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

The character in front of the plane with the men is not Ray, it is Scarlett. If you look closely, her dog, Colombus is by her side. The closeup which follows then makes more sense. Also, the featurette that purports to show the ending sequence without credits shows marked inconsistencies from the original. All of the scenes involving the mysterious light have been removed, as well as those of Ray battling the monster in Paris (save perhaps of the cell of him running away from something). --walkeraj

How can we really tell that is Scarlett? What would she be doing flying planes, and for that matter, would she still look as young as she does, years later? And why would she dye her hair red? I was under the impression that this character was either the daughter of Scarlett or Ray (or both), considering these questions that have yet to be answered. Please cite the source of your information. --TwilightxPrince 02:42, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

It's not intended to be that much later. The hair color change is common in anime to represent a character aging. Also, she's not blond, she's actually a light redhead, and her name is intended to reflect that. Look at the sequence. Notice the dog beside her. Note the name of the plane. These scenes were intended to depict possible future adventures of Steamboy. Note that they were in a chronological order. Ray returns home, Scarlett returns home, Lloyd dies, etc. What did Scarlett do with the O'Hara foundation after she returned home? Would they not have continued research into aviation? Did she perhaps want to prove herself as an adventurer as well, using the vast resources of the Foundation to acheive this goal? Those are the types of things we are to wonder about, but I do not believe they are intended to extend far enough into the future to allow for a child between the two characters. In the DVD special features Otomo himself talks about how the scenes during the credits were intended as sort of a playground for the mind, and could be used as inspiration for the team to continue the story with, after he had left.--Walkeraj 19:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UK DVD release date wrong

It got pushed back nearly a year till yesterday, just changing now IanC 19:59, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Afd, July 2004

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below from July 1, 2004 to July 4, 2004. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made here or in a deletion review. No further edits should be made to this debate.

The result of the debate was to delete copyvio version and replace with temp version once copyvio period is over. Discussion:

Casting and teaser info for a movie that was released in Japan two weeks ago. SWAdair | Talk 08:36, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
?? Keep! Looks like a pretty major movie to me, $20m budget, director of Akira, etc. Needs a hell of a cleanup, obviously. —Stormie 09:47, Jul 1, 2004 (UTC)
Delete: advert, WP != IMDB. In a few years, if someone remembers what this movie was about, it can have an article. Wile E. Heresiarch 14:14, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Keep, Cleanup. This should have an article - David Gerard 16:12, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
It's a copyvio. That opening sentence in the synopsis is all over the net. See [1]. - Lucky 6.9 16:42, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Delete the original article, replace it with the temp page, and keep. -Sean Curtin 02:53, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Keep Rather than delete, just clean it up, and make it better. If deletions come as part of that, delete. But by all means, don't kill the whole article. HereToHelp 19:37, September 11, 2005 (UTC)
Delete I am going to see this movie next week. While I am looking forward to it immensely, I fail to see why it should get its own page on Wikipedia. This is NOT a movie database! It should be listed on Otomo's page as one of his works, and no more. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by N^O^el (talk • contribs) 19:52, July 19, 2004.
Keep Because of Akira's status, many people are curious about this new movie. That fact, coupled with the budget and caliber of the American cast, should warrant inclusion in Wikipedia. Someone who has seen the film should add a few details, including specifying that Steamboy is not a sequel to Akira.
also, there are many details that an imdb will miss, such as how these characters relate to other otomo characters. how his screenwriting skills have improved (or deteriorated), etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.67.134 (talk • contribs) 21:16, March 20, 2005

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on here or in a deletion review. No further edits should be made to this debate.

[edit] Nods vs. references

is there really any difference between the "nods" and the "references"? They could be under one heading. Spyderchan 02:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scarlett O'Hara

Somewhere, the obvious Gone with the Wind reference needs to be mentioned. 129.7.254.33 21:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Come and read my suggestion

steamboy3....

My story is a continuation of steam boy 2. If you want to see my ideas go into the future of steamboy.

In that time the technology has gone too far.

There will be new characters are:

John York (US)
Steven Wills (US)
col.Hamston (AUS)
AMR Collins (BR)
AMR Livingston (AUS)
Einsten von lieberzehn (GR)
Col. Barren (GR)
FM Wehern (GR)

If you are the the people which made Steamboy. Email me and I will explain it more about the story.

Steamboy4....ideas comming soon.

If you want to call me on 0419165053.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ideaboy2 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 1 December 2006.

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I am the creator of Steamboy, please send your script and 10 thousand dollars in cash to my current address in Nigeria and I will make the movie for you. Please send nonsequential 100 dollar notes, it may sound odd, but I am an eccentric director that doesn't like to see two large numbers in sequential order. I mean, lol, get real, no one from Steamboy production is going to look at this page and even if they did look at the talk page, they certainly wouldn't be bothered about anything they find. This is worth keeping here just for comedic value ^_^ JayKeaton 01:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anna Paquin voicing Ray in the US dub

I had to do a double-take when I read the credits and saw her name scroll past. Definitely hard to single her out underneath the accent she used. --75.2.60.123 00:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

Should we add the parts at the very end? Like the part with Scarlett and the plane? The Quidam 21:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Steamboy.jpg

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[edit] Plot synopsis

In the plot synopsis it claims that Edward Steam was hit with a freezing gas. It was actually high pressure steam, the gas only caused a freezing affect after the steamballs were allowed to cool to a lower temperature and then released. At the beginning of the movie the steamball was being created and thus high temperature and pressure steam was being used. Anyone mind if I change this? --Cobsterjh (talk) 21:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)