Talk:Steam shovel

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The image-patrol seems to be active on Wikipedia, and images often get deleted unless tagged with a copyright-status tag. The available tags are shown at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags, and one needs to be added to Image:Bucy4.jpg. If the uploader of Image:Bucy4.jpg got it from a U.S. source, the comments given with the upload indicate it should have the {{PD-US}} tag, which will save it. -R. S. Shaw 00:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)


It came from a Canadian source, also public domain

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[edit] Trivia

Why is the Trivia section a subheading of the In Fiction section? If anything, it should be the other way around, or they should be seperate.

Verin 23:31, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed - a left-over from earlier 'fiddling'...
There have been a number of major edits to this article recently, all trying to arrange the available information in some kind of cohesive form. Unfortunately, a lack of non-US history means that this is still a work in progress...
EdJogg 19:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ruston-Bucyrus image

An image was added labeled "Still in use:Ruston-Bucyrus steam shovel in Lixouri/Greece" but it looks to me more like a drill-rig. In any case, there's no sign of steam power (probably diesel powered). Anybody else have an assessment? -R. S. Shaw 19:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

It's a good picture of a nice old Bedford, but I agree, I don't think it belongs here! (From the radiator, it looks like there's some kind of an IC engine behind the cab.) -- EdJogg 22:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

yup its a poxy Bedford truck with a Keystone water drill rig. c. 1960. and not a steam shovel. On the topic why do we have lego pictures and a railroad rotary snowplow here as well? quite off topic.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sfsorrow2 (talk • contribs) 06:00, 11 May 2007.

(1) So the Bedford pic should definitely go – incidentally, on the Bedford Vehicles page the same picture is present, but with the caption "Bedford with chassis by Ruston-Bucyrus". That cannot be correct, as the chassis must, by default, be Bedford (otherwise it is actually an "RB with a Bedford cab"!). Any ideas? We ought to update that caption too.
(2) The 'Lego' is actually Meccano, and it is a working model of a steam shovel, which also happens to be powered by steam. There is nothing wrong with using pictures of models to illustrate articles, especially for articles like this one where suitable images are very hard to come by. When we have a surplus of pictures, we can better decide how much it adds to the article.
(3) The rotary steam plough... Hmmm. Well, go back to Dec 2004, to the creation of the article, and you will see a single sentence: "A steam shovel is a large excavating machine designed for lifting and moving material such as snow." with a single picture depicting a "...rotary steam shovel...", and it has remained in the article ever since!
I have not removed it before because they are actually related to the early steam shovel designs. If you look at the picture of the Le Roy steam shovel you will see a machine that is rather similar layout to a rotary steam plough, but with a steam shovel cabin at one end rather than a rotary blade. Admittedly this is no real excuse for the picture to remain here...
EdJogg 09:12, 11 May 2007 (UTC)