User talk:Staug73

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Contents 1 Welcome to the Wikipedia! 2 Controversy of ECT 3 Warning: do not remove POV tags unilaterally 4 Electroconvulsive therapy 5 deletion of ECT controversy 6 Mediation Cabal 7 WP:OWN 8 About to wrap it up... 9 tough ECT audience! 10 ECT Mediation 11 DYK

[edit] Welcome to the Wikipedia!

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[edit] Controversy of ECT

Hi Staug73,

I’m afraid not even you can remove the sourced material you included in the Controversy section of the ECT article (excellent material by the way).

Those guys are really pov pushers willing to waste enormous amounts of time and energy to push their pov. I for one cannot handle them alone for the simple and plain reason that I have very limited time to edit in WP.

I would recommend to put the article’s content back and just ask for a third party comment, perhaps here.

Or feel free to come to my talk page and leave a note.

Congrats (and best wishes) for your ECT copyedits,

—Cesar Tort 00:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I just replied in my own talk page

Cheers! —Cesar Tort 17:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Warning: do not remove POV tags unilaterally

Wikipedia is a community of editors. No single editor should remove a POV tag especially when a fellow Wikipedian has already objected to this practice in discussion. I understand your passion but play the game by the rules.--scuro 04:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Electroconvulsive therapy

I have given this a quick read-through. With regard to POV, some of those talk page comments that accuse the article of carrying weight are in themselves biased; one states:

"The article is totally pro-electroshock. Giving it a pretty name doesn't make it anything more than zapping a persons brain to erase why they feel bad. Its a barbaric practice, and should be treated as little better than drilling holes in peoples heads to let the spirits out."

A later comment states:

"ECT is the most effective treatment for depression. It is commonly utilized and medically accepted. This article does not reflect that."

The phrase "between a rock and a hard place" comes to mind. I think you have done a pretty good job so far in your effort to introduce the required balance into the article, but you won't be able to please all readers. It is well sourced; that aspect cannot reasonably be criticised. An article review might be a good idea. If the outcome of that is positive, you have what could become a featured article, although stability will need to be reached before that can happen. Now that you have begun the mediation process, stick with that and see what the outcome will be. Adrian M. H. 15:33, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] deletion of ECT controversy

Hi again,

User Adambro has reverted your request for deletion.

I'm not familiar with such policies. But since you requested deletion with your user I.P. number rather than with your User name, I recommend you to post the deletion tag again using your User name and see what happens.

Cheers,

—Cesar Tort 17:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

You might find this useful [1]. —Cesar Tort 02:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation Cabal

Your request for mediation has been accepted. Jac _roe 18:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:OWN

Hello Staug73. I noticed this edit summary and feel you may benefit from reading WP:OWN. When individuals feel so strongly about articles (or sections of articles), it becomes near impossible for them to retain a detached, neutral point of view. Please consider taking a break if you feel stressed about editing collaboratively with others. Best wishes. Rockpocket 07:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About to wrap it up...

Hey, head on back to the mediation request. If you'll agree to a few things, we can close it! -- Jac _roe 03:55, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

You asked, I answered. I'm waiting on your reply. It's almost over. Jac _roe^Blank 19:48, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tough ECT audience!

Hi, I wonder if you are still editing the tough article.

I think the {{globalize/USA}} template should be restored in the ETC article. The guy who removed it stated in edit summary “This is a worldwide medical treatment”. I believe this is false: isn’t it forbidden in Slovenia or another Eastern Europe country?

—Cesar Tort 06:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes: WP is a labyrinth.

Above I called your attention to this one: [2]. —Cesar Tort 16:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] ECT Mediation

Almost... done... Jac _roe^Blank 21:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

On 5 March 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article History of psychosurgery in the United Kingdom, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)