Talk:Statesman (automobile)

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[edit] Second paragraph of the lead section

I was actually referring to the paragraph as a whole - I believe we can add a section or perhaps a half-sentence mention concerning the Holden Statesman to somehow answer the obvious question, but describing the new Holden large car lineup at length seems superfluous for me in this article. As concerns other variants not getting revived, this is absolutely redundant - Holden also didn't build a wagon or delivery van variant of the Statesman, didn't run an elephant farm or retail Christmas tree decorations, for what I can tell, and there is no mention of that. I believe stating what didn't happen really isn't very encyclopedic... PrinceGloria 09:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC) PS. The List of Statesman vehicles really does not make sense as a separate article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by PrinceGloria (talkcontribs) 09:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notes & References

My attempt to add a reference to the first line of this article was well short of successful. Can soneone point me to the correct way to do this please. GTHO 11:14, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Holden Statesman, Statesman WB "Series I" versus "Series II"

I note there has been talk in other articles about "Holden Statesman" versus "Statesman" where the "Holden" nameplate was not used for HQ to WB Statesmans but used for VQ models onwards. Just to add to the confusion I note that the "Statesman" nameplate was dropped for the Series 2 WB models. Series 2 WB models were known as simply as "DeVille - Series II" and "Caprice - Series II" which has been indicated in the addendum to the "Statesman and WB Commercials" service manual produced by Holden. This is something that may need to be looked into and confirmed by the author as this publication from Holden clearly indicates that the "Statesman" name was dropped for Series II WB's which technically means they are not Statesmans at all (even though the only differencve between series I and II is the trim in the deVille, trimatic transmissions, electric mirrors, trip computer and radios. Revised badging on the caprice "Caprice by Holden" suggest that these vehicles are probably better identified as the Holden Caprice and the Holden Deville —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.91.9.167 (talk) 00:43, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

GMH couldn't really have made it any harder for us could they? I have copies of the front covers of two Series II brochures: one reads "Series II Statesman De Ville" and the other reads "Series II Statesman Caprice". So it seems that the technical people at GMH were on a different planet to the marketing people over this. Maybe we should seek the help of a Statesman owners club, if there is such a thing. Cheers GTHO 10:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)