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[edit] Direct-to-DVD Movies
I added a little about the Direct-to-DVD movies under SG-1, since they will unequivocally be SG-1 movies. If there's some principled reason for putting that information in a new category, I'm not sure what it is. The information in that section just makes it sound as if the storyline will not be continued unless someone picks up the show. That seemed misleading to me. Also, the link to the story that was supposed to be claiming that the new movies will lead in to a third series is dead. I've included a link in what I added that is not dead, and it says that they haven't decided if it will lead to a third series. The text in the article is fine on this, but the name of the story in the footnote suggests that they have decided to lead into a new series with one of these movies. Nothing in the only story I could find on this said any such thing. All it says is that they are considering a third series, with no mention of a lead-in from either of the two movies. Parableman 20:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Since the info about the Third Series and the upcoming SG-1 movies are already in the article, should there be a "Future of the Franchise" section? llcopp 22:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] critical reception
This page needs a critical reception section i don't know why most pages about media on whik don't have them.
- I think the depressingly simple reason why Wiki media pages lack a critical reception section is that most contributors are uncritical fans. That is why media wikis read more like fanzines than encyclopedia articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.31.16.74 (talk • contribs) 07:18, July 3, 2007
- "Critical Reception" doesn't necessarily mean bad things. I think you should reconsider your comment, as it is an attack on the validity of fans who edit the pages of their favorite fictional creations. The reason that this page does not have a Critical Reception page is likely because it's very difficult to get sourced critical reception for a mid-1990's film and its spin-offs online. Would you like to take the time to find them? =David(talk)(contribs) 19:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Garry's Mod
Would it be okay to add Garry's Mod the the games section? A lot of players of that game use Stargate portals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.205.73.118 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
- Not really. Garry's Mod isn't an official Stargate game, just a modification of another. It would be okay to put Stargate on the Garry's Mod page, though.
- If there were a cultural references section, it could be placed there...but I don't know that enough cultural references to Stargate exist to warrant a section.=David(talk)(contribs) 07:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- We could add a "Game References" section or some similar section, because there are now a number of things that display the stargate in some form. These include Stargate: TLS, Stargate Worlds and of course, aVoN's Stargate Addon for Garry's Mod. Alteran Ancient 15:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Removed from See Also section
This has been removed from the main article as it is unsourced, and attempts to provide original research.
- FYI - The Kailasa Temple, Ajanta, India, built around 200 to 300 BC by Buddist monks (prior to Hinduism) dipicts a similiarity to the 'StarGate dialing device' used to dial the gate across galaxies. On one of the temple's roofs rests a tri-circle - each within the other - depicting different symbols. On top of this 'dialer' stand four lions surrounding a cover stone in the centre. The cover stone is also shown on other buildings - protected by stone guys (warriors) surrounding it. The temple complex appears to have been made of sold rock carved from the mountain side. How they carved this temple out of sold rock with such artistic detail is beyond me. Could this be a base point for a legend of the StarGate intergalactic teleportation system? The temple looks like it is composed of a warehouse vault, skyscraper pyramids and even a little victorian house or temple - all made of rock from an ancient time! The front of this mountain temple has a fortress protecting it.
- Proof can be viewed on the 2000-08 calendar from Clariant International Ltd., CH-4132 Muttenz, Switzerland. August shows the temple from an overhead shot. Main sites - Roha, Thane & Kolshet. Credits under the picture state the photo is from Clariant (India) ltd., Dr. Annie Besant Road, Worli, Mumbai 400 018 (T +91 22 202 2161 F +91 22 202 9781)
- The source for this article was from that calendar picture and research - using the internet.
- Question: How did they measure the velocity of event horizon?
Grymwulf 08:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Franchise Value
Does anybody know the estimated value of the franchise? I have seen that MGM has said Stargate is their most valuable franchise second only to James Bond. Does anybody know what type of revenue they actually make or what type of impact is made on the local Vancouver, Canada economy? I know at one time it was costing near $2 million to make one episode of SG-1 so they had to have revenues of at least $2 million per episode at that point. HotOne121 (talk) 05:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding "Fandom" Section
Does anyone else other than me find this section a complete waste of space? It seems like this is just a word made up by a group of fans that has taken on more popularity within the fan culture but that holds no real importance outside that culture. It sounds like nothing more than trivia and it hardly has the history or notability of, say, "Trekkie" to warrant inclusion. I'm hoping some people will weigh in on this. If I get no objections I'll remove it. NcSchu(Talk) 00:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- I just merged it here as the content of the former article Gaters. A fandom section is common, see Firefly (TV series), LOST and Carnivàle. Do what you want with this section as it really sounds like shameless selfpromotion, but if you want to get rid of it in full, better revive the Gaters article and send it to AfD, I don't care. – sgeureka t•c 00:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 2014?
I'm noticing the relatively recent addition of the year 2014 in the intro as the projected end of Stargate Atlantis. I'm assuming this is vandalism, but I wanted to check with someone who'd know better before removing it, as I suppose it's possible that the show is intended to run for ten seasons like its predecessor. --Moralis (talk) 20:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Fixed. Either obvious vandalism or unsourced claim. – sgeureka t•c 21:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Joe Mallozzi mentioned on his blog that 10 seasons might be expecting a bit much and he's hoping for around 7, so definitely not a valid claim. --Tango (talk) 22:33, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Navy?
Are there ever any Navy personnel in any of the series? All the other major branches of the US Military have been in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.88.184 (talk) 01:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
- There are probably some around somewhere in the background in the various episodes involving travelling in boats (the one with the replicators on the submarine and the one with the mothership that crashed underwater and flooded are the two that spring to mind... my memory for episode titles fails me, though...). I don't know of any non-extras in the navy, though. I can't think of any army people either - just air force and marines. --Tango (talk) 22:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- It depends on how you look at it. There are 4 departments, and 5 branches. The Marines are a part of the Department of the Navy. I would have to double check but I am sure there would have been Navy present for the breach of the Russian sub and the rescue of Jack from ejection into the Atlantic from the X302 (whether they appeared on camera or not...). There only branch of the US Military never showed (as far as I can tell) is the Coast Guard. IanCheesman (talk) 09:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Theories of the coverup
It has been theorised amongst some fans that stargate (movie and tv show) is a cover for a real stargate style military project (in America). This theory goes that if there is a leak about the real stargate style military project then the US government has deniablity, using the tv show as a source for this leak. As an intresting aside the 'Wormhole Extreme' episode in the stargate tv show can act as a double cover for the real program (confusing isn't it? I understand these to be more flights of fancy than conspiricy theories). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbearbear83 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Deliberate error on this page
Sorry, im not very wiki-pedia-ish and i dont want to intrude, but it says that Stargate: The Alliance was meant to be based on Stargate Universe. Er... might want to fix that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.221.217.4 (talk) 13:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
- It says it is "based on the Stargate universe", universe not capitalized. And as far as I know, this is true. – sgeureka t•c 15:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Timeline page?
I remember there used to be a timeline page of events that had happened in the stargate universe (dating far back to thousands of years ago to present) I cant seem to find it. Was the article deleted? (if so can someone tell me why i always thought it was a pretty good one) or am i just not looking in the right place?--Zoobz19 (talk) 16:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- It was deleted after a discussion here. There was too much original research in it (the dates were mostly worked out by the people writing the article). --Tango (talk) 16:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
- You can still find all relevant "millions of years ago" facts in prose in the article Ancient (Stargate). The season articles automatically give you the "present" timeline. – sgeureka t•c 07:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
- Also, that page is available in somewhat more navigable form on the Stargate Wikia. - Sikon (talk) 13:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject Egypt?!
I don't think we need the banner saying this page is part of WikiProject Egypt. If this page is part of that WikiProject, it shouldn't be! The only link between Egypt and this page is that the original movie Stargate featured some Egyptology, and that the Earth gate was found in Egypt. This is in fact nothing to do with Egypt itself, anymore than Babel is to do with Egypt. And if anything, the article Stargate (film) should be part of the WikiProject Egypt, not this general article about the franchise - what does Atlantis have to do with Egypt? I suggest we remove the banner and notify the appropriate WikiProject that this article is irrelevant to their needs. --Aquillyne-- (talk) 01:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] lyrics
did you know that there are actualy lyrics to the stargate song? here goes:
stargate its a big world with a crazing swirl you step inside to another world were talking stargate its an amazing trip you can go quite far when you dont need a car or even a ship there's cornal o'niell and carter and daniel and teal'c look out for that gould
if i have spelling errors feel free to change them --Hawkey131 (talk) 01:19, 13 May 2008 (UTC)