Talk:Star Wars Day
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OK, be gentle. 'Star Wars Day' is a well-known joke, and I hope I've managed to make the intent of this article clear. If it's excluded from Wikipedia because it's a joke, then some later inclusion will hijack the phenomenon, as has happened with eats shoots and leaves. I've adhered to factual content as far as I possibly can with a first attempt. If further notable refs can be found for the Star Wars Day joke, please add them. If someone can come up with official registration evidence for one of the groups claiming to be Jedi churches who promote a Star Wars Day, please feel free to add to the official section - but remember that 'Star Wars Day / May the 4th be with you' was first a joke. There's a long discussion on the Talk:May 4 page about its inclusion there, please don't hassle the anti-vandal squad on May 4 without first contributing to that discussion. SeanCollins (talk) 05:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I admit at first I was skeptical that this page should exist. But as it exists now it looks pretty good. Kudos on all the citations. If anyone tries to get it deleted I'll be around to help improve it even more. -FrankTobia (talk) 18:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] May 25th
OK, there's an edit skirmish going on. I read the cited article, and it mentions only 25th May, never 25th May 2007. There's a text version of the document at starwars.com that includes the text '25th May 2007', but their version is subtly different to the council archive version. The council's version must be superior. The archived agenda item does mention 2007, but perhaps the final resolution was more generous. I've emailed LA City Council asking for clarification, perhaps that will help. SeanCollins (talk) 07:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- OK, I'm glad that you're attempting to clear it up. It's nice that there are actual people on here who care about accuracy. I hope I'm not coming across as rude with all of those edits. Dates in the council resolutions only pertain to the year in which they are brought to the legislature. Kudos to you for actually emailing the LA City Council; for additional clarification, you can go to the following PDF: [1] which notes the council's final action on the resolution. It has a subject line that states "DECLARING MAY 25, 2007..." on the first page. I will go ahead and leave the article as it is right now, and let you decide, as creator of the article, if you feel that it is enough information to make the edit. I hope that helps. Debigboy (talk) 06:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- I initially interpreted the resolution the same way since clearly the actual resolution text, while enacted in 2007 (May 1st?), does not specify that the designation is only for that year. However, all the other sources (and coverage I can find on the web) assume they meant just 2007, which is a reasonable assumption. (No mention anywhere of preparations for Star Wars Day 2008 either.) My sense is that these sorts of "declared days" are not intended for perpetuity, but one-offs. (it doesn't show up on any schedule for this year that I can find).
- On the other hand, it looks like the city council is perfectly capable of specifying a scope for the year, for example: Ruben Salazar Day 2008 Hollywood Reporter Day 2008 WORLD AIDS DAY 2007 Los Angeles Literacy Day 2006. So leaving it off for Star Wars Day seems unusual. Given the nature of the honoree, it is conceivable that the Day is meant to be recurring. While an official response from the Council would be helpful, typically getting an email is not WP:Verifiable. I think that policy may be helpful here...
- we can verify that Star Wars Day occurred in 2007 (there are news reports
- we cannot verify that there will be a Star Wars Day in 2008 or future days (no news reports)
- I say we wait until there are more verifiable sources before documenting that Star Wars Days recurs every year. From a practical perspective, I think it is unlikely... from a strict reading of the actual resolution passed... we can believe!--Marcinjeske (talk) 06:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
That email brought the reply
I am not sure if anyone ever got back with you, so I am e-mailing in response to your question regarding "Star Wars Day". According to the Council Action on May 9, 2007, only the day of May 25, 2007 is referenced. Therefore, the Resolution was adopted to name only May 25, 2007 as "Star Wars Day". I hope this is helpful. Please feel free to contact me if you have any other questions. Sharon Dickinson
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This is original research though, so I feel quite justified in sulking and not making the change back to 25th May 2007 only. SeanCollins (talk) 23:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
