Talk:Star Trek: Intrepid

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Hey cool, a page dedicated to Intrepid! I appreciate the thought Zaphael, though based on past history, I suspect this page will become the focus of an Afd in short order. Still, it's a very kind gesture. :) Nick Cook 12:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, did I get the information right? And yes, I know that someone's going to notice and Afd it pretty soon. Still, you never know... Zaphael 10:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Looks pretty accurate to me. Cheers. :) Nick Cook 19:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

This shouldn't be AfD'ed unless an entire slew of them related to fan projects are. 68.249.4.142 09:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

1 Now Catergorized
2 Other Films
3 Ariadne
4 This video is NOT finished
5 HLtC Plot Summary
6 Notability
7 Suggestion
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Surai-scout.jpg
9 Fair use rationale for Image:USS Intrepid image.JPG
10 Fair use rationale for Image:SSAriadne.jpg

[edit] Now Catergorized

Added Intrepid to "Star Trek fan films" (chose category based on Hidden Frontier's.) Zaphael 17:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other Films

Nick, what order should the other films go in? I tried to put them into "order of completion", based on how much information you have on your encylopedia about them. Also, can I upload a picture of Intrepid and of Ariadne to illustrate this page? Zaphael 07:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

For the shorts we're not planning to film them chronologically. Machinations is intended to be filmed first, largely to test out the new caera and to let us try out some new techniques. However, it actually takes place some months after Next in Line. Next in Line takes place about a week after HLtC. Bit Patterns would be episode two, and CoD episode three. Nick Cook 15:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ariadne

Really, you guys didn't design Ariadne? I felt sure you did (no-other ship I've seen has green bussard collectors)

Wish we could take credit, but no. The design was from (IIRC) Ships of the Starfleet. We'd actually intended to go with an even older design, but we eventually settled on this one. I forget who built the mesh, but he was kind enough to allow us to use it. The bussard collectors have since been re-coloured. Nick Cook 22:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This video is NOT finished

This entry shows the idiocy of Wiki listing here. This fan video group have not finished this project. In 6 years on 'in production', they have released bloopers and short teasers. that is hardly a finshed project or story line to be really judged. Everyone seems to overlook this small fact. '07 is coming up fast and they haven't given us a completed project. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.169.122.186 (talk) 22:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Thanks for that. We know its not released, the article never claims it is. But why should it not have a Wikipedia page? Halo Wars does. Halo 3 does. Harry Potter 7 does. Star Trek Online does. Stargate Worlds does. None of those are released, and most aren't even complete. Intrepid is in its final few edits, they have a lot of footage, and I'm, confident that even if they don't meet their '06 target, that Intrepid will be finished in the next 6 months. Oh, did I mention that Ratchet and Clank 5, Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters and Final Fantasy XIII have articles? Zaphael 12:41, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually it's four years, but then he knows that already. Nick Cook 22:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Just for reference, the project started around August 2002 when the idea was first aired. Of course Shubert has had an unfinished symphony (his 8th) since 1822, so perhaps that doesn't rate an entry either.Steve 17 Jan 07

And just for the record. This video IS finished. Nick Cook 08:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HLtC Plot Summary

I'm working on a plot summary, temporarilly put on this subpage.

/HLtC

Oh, and Nick (keep wanting to call you Hunter), can I put some screencaps of the film up? Zaphael 18:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure, that's OK with me. Nick Cook 14:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

You've put a notability template up. I've removed it. I think it does meet the guidelines, and since you've neglected to inform anyone why you think it doesn't, I don't understand your reasoning. Please explain before you put it back up.

Zaphael 11:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Well if we're talking notability, Intrepid has been referenced by, and been the focus of a number of media aritcles. It also features an appearance by a well-known British Media personality, Lorraine Kelly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorraine_Kelly).

Here's some links to the primary Intrepid articles.

Sci Fi 360 Episode 16. http://scifi.co.uk/videopodcast ZDF. Online video: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/inhalt/24/0,4070,3972312-5,00.html CNN and SBS World News Austrailia. Online video: http://edition.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/offbeat/2007/04/28/boulden.homemade.trek.cnn GMTV. Online video http://www.gm.tv/index.cfm?articleid=21516 BBC Radio Scotland, and BBCi. (Can be found by searching for Star Trek on BBC news site) The Guardian. Online article http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,1807367,00.html The Scotsman. Online article http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/features.cfm?id=971732006 The Daily Record. One article http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17307375%26method=full%26siteid=66633%26headline=tay%2dboldly%2dgo%2d-name_page.html The Dave Fanning Show on RTE radio (live interview, no online version currently available) http://www.rte.ie/2fm/davefanning/

Honestly, if Wikipedia doesn't consider this notable, I really don't have a problem with that, However, I would humbly suggest that it most certainly is notable enough to be listed, given the sheer amount of coverage we've had. Nick Cook 14:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

That's all great. They should be linked and referenced in the article -- some specifics to back up the right-now unsourced/uncited assertions about media coverage in the intro. --EEMeltonIV 15:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the help. Nick Cook 15:59, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

Nick, twice now I've changed the "films" section to something resembling this [(http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Star_Trek:_Intrepid&oldid=143297356]) and you've reverted it. I really think it would be a good idea to only waste space on films that have been released and leave the rest in list form. I presume the problem is I refered to them as "Shorts" when some of them aren't? If so I suggest "Other Films" or "Other Productions", but I am fairly sure that my layout is a good one. Spending too much space elaborating on subjects that are really only interesting to those who have an interest in it, and will only cause someone to slap an AfD (Fancruft) template on it quickly. I haven't made any changes yet, but I'd like to know what you think.

Thank you

Zaphael 19:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Seems like a fair point to me. Nick Cook 23:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Surai-scout.jpg

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BetacommandBot 04:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:USS Intrepid image.JPG

Image:USS Intrepid image.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

For the record, this image is the property of Starship Intrepid Productions, and we granted permission for its use here, prior to its upload. Nick Cook (talk) 12:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:SSAriadne.jpg

Image:SSAriadne.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

BetacommandBot (talk) 04:56, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

For the record, this image is the property of Starship Intrepid Productions, and we granted permission for its use here, prior to its upload. Nick Cook (talk) 14:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)