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[edit] Comparison of SEP to Wikipedia

I moved this to Wikipedia:Comparison to Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy ---- Charles Stewart 10:12, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Unless somene preferably the author can defend his errors section, I'm going to remove it in a couple of days. Notwithstadning that it comes across as a little, ahem, strange... but e.g. the two statements on capitalism are not mutually exclusive. Thanks

Hi, I'm the editor who added the errors section. The errors both deal with capitalism because of the nature of the article, not with my personal views. Please assume good faith in this regard. I'm OK with you moving the errors to the Wikipedia page, though. Just don't remove them.--Urthogie 21:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, hi, I appreciate the reply. It seems to me that the "error" in Stanford and the proof do not strictly rule each other out: i.e. it is not strictly an error. It is possible that global capitalism is "widening the gap between north and south" AND global capitalism decreases famine. I suspect that the "race" error is similar. Can we have a third opinion on this?

The entire sentence is included, but the error is not in the "north south" gap part. its when she says "working to further marginalize women, ethnic or indigenous minorities, and the disabled in the so-called Third and Fourth Worlds." Secondly, how is the race error similar?--Urthogie 00:58, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The quote you give does not, again, rule out Stanford's "error". I will look at the race stuff, but it gives me a bit of a headache because I'm not familiar with the use of the terms. Even if wikipedian's agree with you I would still suggest moving it. It does seem some-what out of place: but thats not my main concern. ETA: "Despite a complex history of biological essentialism in the presentation of racial typologies, the notion of a genetic basis to racial difference has been discredited; the criteria different societies (at different times) use to organize and hierarchize “racial formations” are political and contingent" Two things can be said. The topic is divided enough for there to be legitimately different opinions on whether a genetic basis to racial difference has been discredited: it is therefore wrong to describe it as an "error". Secondly the term "racial difference" may be being used by Heyes to describe something different to 'diffentiation among the races' as used by Risch (the scientist cited by you), perhaps speciation. I suggest that it would be better to use the info you have in the race sections, rather than sticking just one (stipulative) error under wiki's Stanford/Wikipedia page.

I agree with you that it should be moved, but your understanding of the error's is completely flawed. There are no two opinions on whether races have somewhat of a genetic basis.--Urthogie 03:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I guess thats a discussion you ought to be having elsewhere. Is it ok if I delete then, and you can decide what you want to do with the text?

Don't delete it unless you plan to move it also.--Urthogie 19:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Jeepers, can't you move it, its your work! Yeah, I have to say that I don't agree that the errors are errors, though I may be wrong, and I don't know where it could go. I will delete soon, as one can access old data: once you've accessed the data via the history tabt, click 'edit'. Thanks

I moved it to Wikipedia:Comparison to Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy – Qxz 07:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License

I take it from the copyright page that all the mentions on the site of it being "Free" actually refer to the cost to access and not the licensing? --Gwern (contribs) 02:05 5 April 2007 (GMT)