Talk:Stalwart (politics)

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This is too big a topic for me to handle on my own right now . . . But why no mention of slavery? Stalwarts turned to machine politics to counter the Democrats, who (until FDR) were the party of state's rights and segregation, and who used violence to oppose Reconstruction in the South. Anti-racism being a minority position in the 1880's, Stalwarts built a patronage machine to keep the Southerners out of power. Half-breeds, on the other hand, were willing to sell out Reconstuction to enact their economic agenda.

Anyone else have any thoughts? Innocent76 09:51, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Pitted against

"They were pitted against the Half Breeds for control of the Republican Party". Not entirely, if I remember my history correctly. They were pitted against the Mugwumps, with the Half Breeds being named for their being in an intermediate position.

With this and Innocent's comment above, still not really addressed, there appears to be a lot that could be written here. - Jmabel | Talk 21:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS to move page at this time, per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 09:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Move proposal discussion

[edit] Support

I believe this page should be the disambig. The current disambig should be moved here and this page should get it's own title. --JAYMEDINC 20:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Please provide some rationale for your argument. —  AjaxSmack  05:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
You will find a handful of ships and a military vehicle named stalwart. Also, their is more than one definition for stalwart. Because of this, I believe that Stalwart should be a disambig page leading to the things I just mentioned.

[edit] Oppose

  • Oppose - barring any argument otherwise, I'm afraid I must oppose, per common usage. -Patstuarttalk|edits 19:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose - I see a couple of relatively minor ships and a non-combat military vehicle, not good enough to displace this historically significant political faction. Plus, someone looking up one of the ships would probably already be using the HMS, USS, etc. --Groggy Dice T | C 03:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.