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Contents 1 Modern use of Stahlhelm design 2 Spain also received shipments of the helmet. 3 Darth Vader 4 Stahlhelm decals 5 Pictures 6 Parody 7 Fallschirmjäger version

[edit] Modern use of Stahlhelm design

Just did an . / s?q=feuerwehrhelm on Google under "Feuerwehrhelm" and learned (confirming what I thought a rumour) that modified versions of the Stahlhelm are in use by firefighters. Just my 2¢. - knoodelhed 06:34, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

(Aluminum) helmets in the classic Stahlhelm shape have been used for decades by volunteer fire departments. They used to be dark red with a white stripe, now they are yellow fluorescent with a white reflective stripe. --217.238.38.38 (talk) 12:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spain also received shipments of the helmet.

Well, a local version was produced at the Trubia weapons factory (Asturias). The locally produced Stahlhelm was in service until the 1990s.Randroide 12:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Darth Vader

Does anyone have information/documentation suggesting the Stahlhelm was an inspiration for the helmet of Darth Vader? --Dpr 03:52, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

I've always suspected that Lucas's inspiration for the Empire was Nazi Germany. Storm troopers, the officer's uniforms and of course Vader's helmet suggests so. - DrFod 04:53, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC)

He admits freely that Triumph of the Will influenced some of the cinematography in Star Wars. It's plain to see he took a lot of design cues from Nazi Germany for the Galactic Empire, and things such as the name of the stormtroopers. I'm not sure if any of that merits a mention in this article, though. boffy_b 12:43, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

I would think that the "Pop Culture" section would be a good place for these references Zanter 19:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Vader's helmet is not reminiscent of a Japanese kabuto. Rama 14:54, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stahlhelm decals

The new text added by User 71.102.122.174 introduces a subject far more complex than touched on so far. Virtually every German military and naval service and every political organization applied its own decals to the M1935/40, so the subject of Stahlhelm decals requires far more than the couple of sentences inserted thus far. Anyone up for creating a new paragraph or section that deals with Stahlhelm insignia, thereby properly covering this complex subject? Jack Bethune 02:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to Chris Hedley, this topic at last has been added,and readers are able to learn more about the subject of Stahlhelm decals. Chris's initial efforts were invaluable. I have attempted to add to his work and offer extra information and history regarding the use of Stahlhelm decals. Those with an interest in this subject are welcome to add their thoughts, as the treatment is still very sketchy at this stage. Anyone able to add illustrations? Jack Bethune 15:54, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Much as I'd like to take the credit, I just reorganised things a bit! The actual text was created by 71.102.122.174 (talk • contribs) and 151.204.129.119 (talk • contribs); they deserve the credit for doing the research. Chris 16:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures

Since the Stahlhelm was mainly worn by German troops, some images about German soldiers wearing Stahlhelme are definitely missing.217.85.87.5 18:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Parody

Here a link to the German version of the plastic Stahlhelm: http://www.swr.de/-/id=1253658/property=detail/width=160/height=120/ug28u6/index.jpg 217.85.87.5 18:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Parodies of everythig exist, I see no reason to include them in every Wikipedia article if we're serious about an Encyclopedia. Ulritz 14:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

This parody created a controversy and is very well documented (hence it's referenced) and was all over Dutch and international news during the E.C. It deserves to be included and it will remain included. Rex 14:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

If anywhere, this belongs at 2006 World Cup fads, despite being insignificant enough to even have a reference (saying it does doesnt change the fact it doesnt). Ulritz 14:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

It has references. If you deny it let me help you: http://www.ad.nl/wkvoetbal/article97198.ece? Rex 14:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Since this isnt a Dutch phenomenon, I will rephrase the last section to give it the weight and scope it deserves. Ulritz 15:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Unacceptable. It is referenced information and the reasons you've presented to remove the section are not enough. Rex 15:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

It is irrelevant to the topic, regardless of how referenced it is. Ameise -- chat 02:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Naturally it is relevant. Rex 08:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow, great comeback. how is it relevent at all? I can make a cheese helmet and write the word "Holland" on it, does that make it a parody of the Netherlands? Ameise -- chat 14:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

No that would only make you look stupid I guess. Do note that this is the Stahlhelm we're talking about, one of thé symbols of nazism. This has a little more value that you wearing a cheese helmet. This parody shows that Europe is "getting over" its world war II traumas. Do you honestly think wearing an orange steelhelmet would have been possible here 15 years ago?! It's 2006, over 60 years after the war and it still causes a lot of trouble but it came over that, it wasn't forbidden and the majority of the people thought it was fun rather than neo-nazi-like. Are you blind?Rex 14:48, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

(ps. Your removal of " ==Parody== " is acceptable. To me.Rex 14:50, 14 October 2006 (UTC))

Where is the consensus? All I see is mud-slinging at two users who disagree with your one-man "consensus". Ulritz 22:45, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Above you snide comment: "YOUR REMOVAL OF PARODY IS ACCEPTABLE TO ME" no further reverts were made hence CONSENSUS.Rex 23:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Your egoistic, bad faith blanket reverts will be reverted on sight, just to let you know. Ulritz 23:57, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fallschirmjäger version

Only the earliest versions of the Fallschirmjäger helmet were actual, customized modifications of existing M1935 helmets. By far, the majority of issued Fallschirmjäger helmets had nothing "removed." Instead, they were designed and manufactured in an original form that was "lacking" the extended features of the standard helmet, so the paragraph is correctly worded as is. Jack Bethune 21:54, 28 September 2006 (UTC)