Talk:Stagehand

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[edit] Merging Theatrical Technician with Stagehand

I think that Theatrical Technician should be merged into Stagehand because they are the same thing.Lekogm 22:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

How is the determination made to merge Theatrical Technician into Stagehand as opposed to the other way around. I think Theatrical Technician is a more general term and covers all of those who work in technical theater as opposed to those who specifically work deck crew. In the usage I am familiar with, the lightboard operator would be a Theatrical Technician, but not a stagehand. --Morydd 21:21, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I would base it on the fact that the union in the United States and Canada that represents these workers refer to them all as stagehands regardless of what department they work in.Lekogm 21:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

As I've said elsewhere, IATSE is not the final arbiter of terminology. The world is larger than North America. There must be a Wikipedia article on how to resolve these kinds of issues. I'll take a look. Bryson430 13:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

How about this as a compromise: Why don't we just merge both of these articles with List of theatre personnel in a section called "Theatrical Technician/Stagehand" and then just update that artice accordingly? --Lekogm 19:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Suppose, adding on to that idea, we made the list of theater personell kind of like the Stage lighting instruments page, with a small description on each and then a link to the main article. Then stagehand and Theatrical technician could be merged together into theatrical technician, as discussed on theatrical technician talk page as well as here. KeepOnTruckin 18:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure let's just do that. --Lekogm 19:08, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

In Denmark the term stagehand is used to describe the people who help the technicians doing their job. Technicians have the responsibility that things are done right and in a safe way - the stagehands just do as they're told. Stagehands and theatrical technician are not the same. --BlueEel 08:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the information BlueEel. That definately adds a twist to this discussion. This shows why it's good to have coverage from other parts of the world. Morydd 14:47, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revamping the Challenges Section

Reading through the Challenges section of this article, it struck me that it was seeming just a long litany of exaggerated comments about how hard it is to be a stagehand. I'm not entirely sure this section is true to encyclopedic principles. but regardless, things like "tens of thousands of tons of gear [to be constructed in a single day]" and "climbing structures that are tens of stories high" aren't rooted so much in fact as fantasy, especially given that the entire section doesn't cite a single source. Jpouliot (talk) 16:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Departments & Venue roles and specialization

I think an important part of consolidating and making practical a major part of this article would be to describe the Theatrical vs Arena situation, and also to include tasks and roles of departments. Also using some sort of disambiguation regarding the rigging duties and roles vs audio, etc. Schilsound (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)