Talk:St Mary's Pro-Cathedral

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This page should be in as St. Mary's, not Saint Mary's, under wiki conventions. FearÉIREANN 18:09 10 Jul 2003 (UTC)

[edit] references to Church of Ireland and Roman Catholic Church

I've changed the reference to the Church of Ireland from 'tiny' to 'minority'. As its adherents made up I think well over 10% of the population of Dublin (I haven't found a certain historical figure) during the earlier part of the period in question, 'tiny' seems inappropriate. Equally, the article covers the history of the Pro-Cathedral from well before partition, so the figure given in the earlier version of over 90% of the population being Roman Catholic is inappropriate as it refers to the situation in the Republic now. The figure for all Ireland, roughly calculated from the Wickipedia entries for Northern Ireland and Demographics of the Republic of Ireland, comes to about 76% Catholic. Palmiro

[edit] Category

Yes, it's not a full cathedral, but I think it deserves adding to Category:Roman Catholic cathedrals in Ireland anyway. That's where anyone unfamiliar with it would expect to find it. Morwen - Talk 13:08, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture deletion

Oh look. One of the deletion nutters deleted MY image of the cathedral from the page! I gave the picture which I took to Wikipedia. I'm not giving it again. I guess Wikipedia just lost a high quality picture of the interior of the cathedral. No wonder this site has become a joke! FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 23:50, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

This sounds a pity, anyone know why a donated image was deleted? SeoR (talk) 06:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

It happens a lot. Wikipedia has changed its commands and rules endlessly. A lot of users uploaded their own images using the correct commands at the time, only to find that the commands changed and instead of recognising that the 'problem' was with Wikipedia's constantly changing commands to be used, some users and some bots blanket deleted images claiming they were 'illegally uploaded.' I spent over a year trying to get the bot owners simply to fix their bots to change old legitimate commands to the new commands, to no avail. Instead they consistently insisted that it was always the fault of the uploader, even though the uploaders all followed the exact commands as they then existed. I spent months changing images I had uploaded from one set of commands to another, was away for 2 months and came back to find the new set had now been replaced by another set, and I was being accused by a bot of having invalidly uploading the images a second time. Eventually, when I day I was bombarding with 17 bot messages yet again accusing me of illegally uploading images I quit the site completely (as has practically everyone who was on the site when I was, in utter frustration. I am only back on a short visit.)

Even if I wanted to I couldn't upload the image for this page again. I lost the disk on which I had all the pictures I took of Dublin for Wikipedia during a house move last year. So all the images I took and gave to Wikipedia over three years using the then commands we were all supposed to use, and which were later deleted because the commands had been changed, are gone for good. I cannot replace them. That also includes some out-of-copyright 19th century images of Dublin where for some unknown reasons were deleted as breaching copyright - they couldn't have breached copyright. They were taken by my great-great grandfather who died in 1904! He owned the copyright, which expired decades ago!!! I own the negatives and gave the images to Wikipedia . . . only to be told I had "illegally uploaded copyright material"!!! And people wonder why I gave up in despair! lol FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 21:37, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, good to know. Perhaps I am glad I am only about to begin picture uploading... or fearful of what will happen later. It does sound more than a little crazy (but there do seem to be some in WP who would rather delete than accept that everything, even the smallest stub, has potential, and images etc. all the more so). But it sounds like a wonderful set of material, some heirloom! All the best. SeoR (talk) 22:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)