Talk:St Columb's College

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Contents 1 Copyright violation 2 Deletion 3 The college as an 'English-medium' school 4 Punctuation 5 Fair use rationale for Image:College2.jpg

[edit] Copyright violation

The bulk of the article comes verbatim from the History of St Columb's College at the St Columb's website, and is also copyrighted at Lost School Friends Ireland. As the diff was posted from 85.31.137.11 (talk · contribs), an IP address with a repeated history of abuse, it doesn't look likely it was posted with permission. 86.140.108.154 03:37, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

It was wrote by my teacher, MrF.Madden, history teacher at st columbs, he wrote a book on the subject and he approved entering his history on wikidpedia - unsigned post by 143.117.143.42 (talk · contribs)

The default on Wikipedia is to assume articles are copyrighted unless definite proof of permission exists, and an anonymous assertion won't do. An e-mail from St Columb's would be good. If you simply revert, it'll go to the formal copyvio procedure; believe me, that takes forever. Tearlach 18:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

what address could i get st.columbs to send an e-mail to? i'm sure i could get them to send an e-mailsoon enough.

Whatever the copyright status of material (but Wikipedia:Copyrights must be adhered) lets make sure that if we are adding to the article that it is relevent and increases the value of the article and not simply an attempt to bulk up the article, Wikipedia is not... Djegan 21:10, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

it is not "bulking up", simply giving the background to the school, the only high school in the world to have 2 nobel laurertes in its alumni

Could someone please post the e-mail address as st.columbs have agreed to send an official e-mail okaying the material for this page, thanks

[edit] Deletion

I deleted material from this article - which I see has now been restored - because it was either irrelevant or erroneous. Should accuracy not be a foundation 'Djegan'?

How is it "irrelevant or erroneous"? Djegan 14:42, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I would have thought that the changes that I made would have made that obvious. The school grounds are close to fifty acres, not four. All of the names that I deleted are either irrelevant or the information within them is inaccurate at best or false at worst. Do your research better!

If they are inaccurate then improve them, but we need more than vague claims. Djegan 22:15, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Clearly you do not 'need more than vague claims' as you are currently printing what could best be described as such already. The school grounds are over TEN times larger than the article states. In addition Eamon Burns, Liam Boyle, Noel Finn and John Fullerton have no reason to be listed other than being teachers in the school - what of the other 90 plus teachers who are not listed? David Healy NEVER attended the school while the Brian McGilloway listed is not the one who teaches in the school. QED

Many of the people you deleted have articles, whilst I am not passing judgement on their merit (indeed you may have a valid case - my initial belief was that your deletion was simply agenda driven deletion) your best option would first be to sumitt an WP:AFD request for articles which you believe are superficial rather than simply deleting the links which serves little long-term purpose. Djegan 23:47, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

It's good to see the article has been edited thoroughly! Some of the famous teachers an ex-pupils aren't really famous e.g. John FOOLurton

[edit] The college as an 'English-medium' school

I have been debating with Eog1916 as to whether or not St. Columb's should be referred to as an English-medium school on my talk-page, as he believes, and so his edits of the article would confirm, that it should be. What do others think? Danny Invincible^Talk|Edits 19:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Seems odd to me too, they've edited a great many articles on schools in Northern Ireland to call them "English-medium", which doesn't really fit in with his own article on English-medium schools. As you pointed out Danny, his article refers to schools built up to 1870 in the Ulster region, that doesn't include the editing he has done of late. But more importantly, it would seem to assert that the school uses a language not in common use in the country the school is built in. I might suggest Eog has a bee in his bonnet about Irish language, but I am satisfied to note that unless English is replaced overnight as the main language (official or not) of Northern Ireland, to edit this article and others to remove the reference to English-medium teaching. What clinches it is his article on the Bunscoil an Iúir, an Irish-medium school, this is specifically pointed out in the article to show that Irish-medium teaching is in a distinct minority. Since most of Northern Irish life is in English Medium, I am removing the mentions of "English Medium" where I see them Alastairward 18:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Punctuation

It seemed to me that, as per normal British and Irish English conventions, this should be "St Columb's College", and a check of the Web site showed that the U.S.-style full stop doesn't appear in the main logo. Are there any objection to moving and editing it accordingly? --Mel Etitis (Talk) 11:29, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:College2.jpg

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BetacommandBot 08:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)