[edit] MFDBot
Is MFDBot malfunctioning? I noticed you reverted one of its edits when I was going to whitelist it in huggle, but I wanted to make sure it is running ok before I do that. Thingg⊕⊗ 18:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- I was doing some debugging - there was a bug regarding format of the page. I've fixed it, and it will be returning to its once daily edit at 0:00 UTC. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 18:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- MfDbot archived three discussions in fully transcluded form and one of them wasn't closed yet! I'm trying to fix but my hotel connection is dreadfully slow today.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 22:44, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
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- Oh, it actually archived straight through the Closed Discussions header, that would explain why I found the header missing the other day. I can't fix it right now due to connection speed. The biggest issue is the open discussion that needs to be put back in it's place. Thanks. And Thanks for all the hard work on this. I've never worked with a bot but I'm sure it must be a lot of work to get one to work properly sometimes and I know that this will eventually mean much less work for all of us at MfD.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 22:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Issue is when there are no closed discussions to archive. I've added a fix. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 23:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- This bot appears to be malfunctioning and has been blocked. Please see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/MfDBot for details. You may unblock the bot yourself after the concerns on that page have been met. I see you have requested to be contacted off-wiki above, but I'm all out of {{shrubbery}}s right now. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 02:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
I asked a couple questions at your RfBAG. Dragons flight (talk) 23:48, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Will look in the morning. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Removing redirects
Thanks, but, given the chance of future double redirection, I don't think it's a bad idea. Also, I think I saw a WikiProject somewhere about reducing redirection. Sardanaphalus (talk) 12:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- I think it is a bad idea, and policy agrees. We have bots that deal with double redirects, if we need it. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 12:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- My reply was a bit curt and the edit was on one of your talkpage archives. My apologies. Sardanaphalus (talk) 13:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Perlwikipedia problem
When using get_pages_in_category; I get the error:
Can't call method "decoded_content" without a package or object reference at Perlwikipedia.pm line 513.
I've tried fixing it myself, but no luck. Any ideas? —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 23:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Just by glancing at the code, try replacing line 513 with:
- $content = $res->decoded_content();
- Instead of:
- $content = $self->{mech}->decoded_content();
- And see if that fixes it. If so, please tell me so I can commit it, if not, I'll look into the code. Honestly, you shouldn't really be getting that error >.> That seems to indicate that you aren't getting a WWW::Mechanize instance. Your bot doesn't modify $editor->{mech}, does it? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:10, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- That's exactly what I first tried after taking a look at the code, but still no luck. I should probably point out that the above error message is Perlwikipedia.pm with that patch applied, without I get a similar one:
Can't locate object method "decoded_content" via package "WWW::Mechanize" at Perlwikipedia.pm line 513.
And, no, my bot doesn't modify $editor->{mech}. —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 21:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Can you try running this to see what version you have:
- perl -e 'use WWW::Mechanize; print $WWW::Mechanize::VERSION. "\n";'
- Also, try putting
print ref($self->{mech}) . "\n"; to see what sort of object $self->{mech} is. That may help with debugging the problem. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm running WWW::Mechanize 1.34 (the latest according to CPAN). Adding that line of code also confirms that $self->{mech}, is, in fact, a WWW::Mechanize object. —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 00:43, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- How about perl -MWWW::Mechanize -e 'print $HTTP::Message::VERSION' ? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 12:47, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- 5.812, the latest. —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 22:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Look through your @INC (perl -V if you need to see it, I think, or just try to perl -MRandomshitthatdoesntexist) and make sure there's a decoded_content sub in HTTP::Message. If you do something other than that sub, like a get_text() or edit(), does it work? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 23:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yep, it's defined on line 179 of Message.pm for me. —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 23:59, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- And yes, edit() works [1]. —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 00:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- (←)
You need to edit the last line of get_pages_in_category, and replace
return @pages;
with
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return \@pages;
This can be diagnosed by noticing that the return value of the function is not an array reference, it is a numeric scalar. — Carl (CBM · talk) 01:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I'm far too tired to understand what you just said. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 01:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Never mind; I downloaded perlwikipedia, tried to figure out what could go wrong, but in retrospect I don't think I am getting the error he is.
Paranomia, is the error happening on these lines of Perlwikipedia.pm?
my @pages;
my $res = $self->_get( $category, 'view' );
unless ($res) { return 1; }
my $content = $res->decoded_content;
If so, I am not getting the same error when I run it. Could you check what type of reference the $res variable is? — Carl (CBM · talk) 01:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- This won't help in finding the fix, but I had the same problem when I upgraded to the fix for issue 9. I didn't pursue the problem because I was in the process of changing my code over to use CBM's Mediawiki::API package, and I just reverted the upgrade to keep the code running until I had completed the switchover of my fairly rudimentary code. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Odd. It is true that another way to work around this problem is to switch to a different framework (the one BrownHairedGirl mentioned is available at User:VeblenBot). But it would be nice to track down this problem as well. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:12, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I've considered trying MediaWiki::API (this is what I'll probably try doing next), and already have tried porting it to MediaWiki, but didn't like it because it didn't have a debug mode. And considering someone else has had this problem, it would be nice to have this fixed. —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 14:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, it's line 513:
while ( $res = $self->{mech}->follow_link( text => 'next 200' ) && ref($res) eq 'HTTP::Response' && $res->is_success ) {
sleep 1; #Cheap hack to make sure we don't bog down the server
$content = $self->{mech}->decoded_content();
—paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 14:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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- And the error persists when you change the last line to
$content = $res->decoded_content(); ? Which category are you trying, I will try again to recreate the error later today. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm trying Category:Wikipedia external links cleanup. —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 14:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- OK - I can reproduce the problem now, on the latest version of Perlwikipedia from svn - but not with Category:Recursion_theory, only with the category you gave above. I'll see if I can work out what's up. — Carl (CBM · talk) 18:00, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
This diff fixes it for me:
--- lib/Perlwikipedia.pm (revision 135)
+++ lib/Perlwikipedia.pm (working copy)
@@ -508,9 +508,9 @@
push @pages, $1;
}
}
- while ( $res = $self->{mech}->follow_link( text => 'next 200' ) && ref($res) eq 'HTTP::Response' && $res->is_success ) {
+ while ( ($res = $self->{mech}->follow_link( text => 'next 200' )) && ref($res) eq 'HTTP::Response' && $res->is_success) {
sleep 1; #Cheap hack to make sure we don't bog down the server
- $content = $self->{mech}->decoded_content();
+ $content = $res->decoded_content();
if ($content=~/<div id=\"mw-subcategories\">/i) {
$content=~s/.+<div id=\"mw-subcategories\">//is;
— Carl (CBM · talk) 18:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I see what happened, then. Thank you for your help, I'll go test+commit that now. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 19:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Test added to the test suite, it is now passing, and committed revision 136. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 19:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- Excellent - works fine now. Thanks Carl and ST47, your help is appreciated :-). Cheers, —paranomia (formerly tim.bounceback)a door? 20:32, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] RE: WikiProject on closed proxies
Hi, I've just signed up for WP:WikiProject on closed proxies as was wondering whether is project is still active and whether you are still an active member. Atyndall93 | talk 01:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- It sort of fell apart when the founder left Wikipedia. Anyway, I'm not technically capable of operating a closed proxy anyway, so I'm not an active member. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 01:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, here I am trying to resolve a bunch of images, across a bunch of wikis, that were wrongly put on commons and need to be FUR'ed onto en:wiki, see here. So I try to do the first one, to establish the fix procedure, and I get bot-templated within six minutes here. Now I have no intention of joining the ranks of the image-screamers nor the bot-screamers, but I do have a few comments:
- Can there be at least a one-hour grace period? At least? I wasn't able to find the exact upload pick for "LAC images on commons needing to be re-uploaded on en:wiki with FUR's, click here", but I did figure I would be able to upload with a generic non-license then immediately replace it with the full scoop. Now that does take a while to do, what with the conservative estimate of seven tabs/windows open to do the task - so can the bot store and check with delay? I'm hoping to write up some pointers for others to help, but if they're gonna get spammed in the meanwhile, realistically, they'll just stop trying.
- Then I check your bot page, and I see "my notice, because BetacommandBot checks" - umm, I thought it was your bot? I thought the idea was that you would take the load? And a little further down, "If you're here to whine and complain", WTF, if you are going to have the exact same attitude as Beta, why did you split the bot? Just to reduce the per-user ANI thread-count? And BTW, I will revert the bot's edit to my upage, since 1) I read it, and 2) it's a spurious notice, since I had a current edit token to the relevant Image page when it dropped the notice. Oh also, that floating notice to take questions to the copyright page - nice, I thought the idea was for you to take on the questions, I must have really misread that approval (was that the one that was closed early?).
- Now moving on to your own utalk, bots and "heat death of the universe" - srs? What normal user should have to deal with that almost impenetrable obstacle, and why should any editor on the english wikipedia have to leave the site to do, well, anything? I can handle bug reports wherever, but I'm not normal, and here I am - on your utalk, it's not a problem with the bot, it's a problem with the philosophy and handling of bots.
- This is not meant to be a general rant, 'tho it is partly my response to my first attempt to upload an image, which was made in utterly good faith and full resolve to comply with non-free in all aspects. I'm only noting here some general impressions which I hope you could address. I'll note that I've been active on discussing bot issues, many of which I think are failures of communication, some examples are outlined above. Note also, I'm trying hard with bots and non-free images, I intervene on Beta's page whenever I can. Don't take this as an attack, but it is a comment on the general situation. Cheers! Franamax (talk) 22:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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- No. One hour is too long, the bot would lose too much data on a reset. This is more than enough for anyone who adds the correct data when they upload the image, and most everyone else needs to be reminded, or has no intention of following policy. You can't really just say "I'll deal with the law in a few hours, I don't feel like it right now."
- The reference to BetacommandBot is a reference to a different bot. BetacommandBot operates on images that already exist, mine operates on recent uploads. If someone removes a tag without fixing the problem, BCBot will catch it on its next pass.
- If there's a technical issue, and you want me to see it anytime soon, it goes on the bugtracker. Because it's a bug. And the bugtracker tracks it. That's the point of a bugtracker. Unfortunately, most users aren't even sufficiently competent to use it, but in general, that means whatever they're complaining about takes longer to fix. I check this talkpage only once a day sometimes, even less others. Typically, if it's a real problem, it takes me a few rounds of back-and-forth to get a good understanding. A proper bug report would allow me to start working on it immediately, but again most people can't write bug reports. I check the bug tracker almost whenever I have a chance, and whenever one of my bugs is modified, I get an email and a ping on IRC. It's the one place I need to go to if I'm working on something technical, because all of my bots are there, and so are requests for database queries. 10:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Atlantis Picture
Hello. I noticed you had cleaned up some problems with the image on the Atlantis: The Lost Empire article, and I hoped you could help me clean up a mess I have just caused there. I uploaded a movie poster for a different Atlantis movie, Atlantis (1913 film) but unfortunately called it the same name as the one that was already on the Altlantis: The Lost Empire article. I've tried to undo the mistake, but was unable. How can I revert that article back to its original and correct form? And the picture also? Thanks CactusWriter (talk) 09:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay... nevermind... I'm an idiot, but improving. I figured out how to work it and it's fixed now. Sorry to clutter up your page with this nonsense. Please delete CactusWriter (talk) 11:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] collen zenk pinter image
You have sent me a notice that the image of Ms. Pinter which I upload must be removed immediately. I was given the image by the public relations department, Ms. Lisa Lugassi, of As the World Turns, Proctor and Gamble Productions for use in disseminating information about Ms. Pinter's involvement with the Oral Cancer Foundation, and about her public efforts to raise awareness of this disease. I have uploaded the image within the parameters of the agreement with the aforementioned individuals and organizations. Your bot and the removal of this image is wrong. Brian Hill, bhill@oralcancerfoundation.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilllaguna (talk • contribs) 02:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, I am the admin for tibettruth.com which is the website for Independent Tibet Network . One of our team (Wiki username=Zhiji) recently posted A Wiki entry about our organisation called 'Tibet campaign', which was deleted or frozen as it was claimed to be in copyright violation. Please explain how we, as originators and owners of tibettruth/independent tibet network, can be inviolation of our own copyrighted material or name? Secondly if the objection is based upon using the term 'Tibet campaign' well that is exactly what we are engaged in, it is a perfectly appropriate adjective and not in nay sense a misappropriaton of 'free tibet campaign'. Had we wished to do so we would have used the phrase 'campaign free tibet'.
Would you therefore please reinstore our entry. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tibettruth (talk • contribs) 12:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- If your material is copyrighted, it cannot be used on wikipedia. All contributions to Wikipedia must be licensed under the GFDL. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 18:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] reinstate two pages - American Orient Express and Grandluxe Rail
Hello, I received a notice that my two new pages were deleted for being redirects "from an implausible typo". But they are true words, for a true company. www.americanorientexpress.com and www.grandluxerail. And, the company is even referenced in this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Orient_Express#Privately_run_trains_using_the_name Can you undelete them? --User3232 (talk) 03:24, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Protecting WP:BAG
You've had an issue with page protection before, and you promised not to use your tools in that way again. Dare I suggest it's not a good idea for you to be protecting WP:BAG on a version you prefer? rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 05:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- That isn't a BRFA. Edit warring is not acceptable practice. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 10:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- Your pledge only applied to BRFAs, not closely related issues? Great. Edit warring isn't acceptable from either side. Protecting it on a version that you have an interest in is part of the edit war. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 17:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- Are you serious? I thought this was settled when you agreed not to use administrative tools in cases where you are directly involved. Do you really not see how your use of tools here is inappropriate? ➪HiDrNick! 17:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- No I don't. It obviously needed to be protected. We don't allow people to edit war over content of a page - we have policies about that, if you haven't seen them, WP:EW, WP:3RR. I don't see how I have a personal interest in supporting that system of BAG elections, as I haven't participated in any of the discussions about that for some time, didn't vote in any of those elections, and was one of the people who wanted to change away from that system. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 18:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure that you still supported the change, especially after withdrawing your confirmation discussion. Still, it's not exactly a good idea for you to always be the one protecting BAG pages. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 18:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- And instead, we should let chaos reign until we can find someone you like? I'll make sure to check with you before I do anything in the future. Since my bot was the one that warned the user above of the speedy deletion of his articles, perhaps someone uninvolved should help him? We wouldn't want me to make a biased decision, would we? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 18:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- No, Requests for Page Protection is that way. Admins can make use of it too. ➪HiDrNick! 19:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- Waste of time, I don't think either of you has argued that the page should not have been protected. The result would have been that the page would have been protected, and that's what happened. I didn't intentionally wait for BC to revert locke's edits, I protected the page as soon as I noticed the edit war in my irc window. I don't think locke would have been reverting in the near future anyway, as I've since been told that he was blocked at the time of the protection. I don't see a need to allow anyone else to edit war over it. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 19:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Reinstating deleted page
Hello - I found a notice that a page I started work on was to be deleted. This is the FAQ project. I guess is because there was no content there, and I have been working to get it ready, so I was sort of early in creating the Wikipedia page. Can this be reinstated later once I have the content ready to go ?
Dineshbareja (talk) 22:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)Dineshbareja
[edit] BLPWatchBot
You can probably change [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ann_coulter&diff=prev&oldid=213304829 diff the edit summary] to note that the bot is no longer on trial. - Rjd0060 (talk) 19:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to let you know that the password for STBot is available on FishEye subversion at the toolserver—I'm not going to give any links to be on the safe side, but you may wish to remove it from the source code. Cheers, —paranomiahappy harry's high club 20:43, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- How? I've always used passwordless login. Looking... --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 21:42, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- STbot is no longer used except for bot access to the API, so i've blocked the account and changed the password. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 21:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Good, glad that's out of the way. —paranomiahappy harry's high club 21:57, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] STBotI is marking public domain images for speedy deletion
I have blocked STBotI for the time being, as it appears to be marking images which are clearly released to the public domain for speedy deletion. Please review all of STBotI's recent edits and correct any that are erroneous. It would be very unfortunate for us to lose public domain images for no reason. Kaldari (talk) 17:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- There's no actual risk to those images, as they're on commons. At least I know now what that line of code I removed was supposed to do >.> --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 18:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Since your bot seems to be having so much trouble with images on Commons, would it be worthwhile to add an "Is this on Commons? If so, move on to the next image" check to the bot? --Carnildo (talk) 02:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- That was the original idea - it checks to see if the image exists, then if it's local or on commons, and only proceeds if it's local. For whatever reason, this was causing all sorts of errors from the bot on images with unicode filenames, so I removed the check without realizing what it was for. I've since reinstated the check and the bot hasn't made any more incorrect taggings, nor is it crashing. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Malleus RfA
I'm confused. You removed it with no edit summary. Enigma message 00:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. I've reverted it, since it isn't a WP:SNOW candidate, and I can't see where MF has withdrawn it. If I've missed something, please feel free to point it out to me. Thanks, Gwernol 00:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- How about the fact that with that RfA transcluded, RfA was blank? --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- User:Casesunit committed some very clever vandalism involving a sort of time-bomb page blanking thingy. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- And when there's something like that going on, check before you same the page that you aren't reintroducing the vandalism. Your save at 20:17 was BEFORE my fixing of the vandalism at 20:18, so if you have hit preview, you'd have known what was going on. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I am exceedingly unhappy that you saw fit to snow close my RfA. It may indeed only have snowball's chance in Hell of passing, but you ought to have done me the courtesy of asking what my feelings were on the matter. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 00:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- And owing to your failure to read the above, I'm going to oppose your RfA. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's not closed. All is well. Was a misunderstanding due to some clever vandalism, as stated above. Enigma message 00:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Feel free to oppose whatever you like; I'm quite used to that kind of wikimadness. But thanks to Enigmaman for explaining. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 00:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bot malfunction
I'm not sure what ImageBacklogBot was supposed to do in this series of edits, but the net result is clearly incorrect. --Carnildo (talk) 19:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- What is so incorrect, besides the bracket imbalence here? I think it's quite clear that it's removing links to non-free images... --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 20:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
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- The bracket imbalance, converting two of the images into inline links but the third into "NonFreeImageRemoved.svg", and editing inside a comment. --Carnildo (talk) 23:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see a problem with the last two. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Fix your bot
Your bot tagged Image:BanqiaoDamAfterFailure.jpg as having no fair use rationale. It does. Revert the edit and fix your bot. --Duk 21:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Your rationale fails to meet requirements. [2]. Stop being stupid and fix your image. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 21:18, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- How exactly does it fail and how did your bot make that determination? --Duk 23:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- You should prove compliance with WP:NFCC, for example by using {{Non-free use rationale}}. In particular, you fail to mention points 1, 2, 7, and 10c, and I seriously doubt that that image complies with 1 and 8, and that is why the image has been tagged. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I think I understand now; your bot looks for templates such as Template:Non-free use rationale. Templates are not required for fair use images. Fix your bot. --Duk 00:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- That is not what I said. I just gave you a list of 5 requirements that you fail to address, and I give you a suggestion, and you completely ignore the requirements and accuse me of forcing you to follow the suggestion? Follow the policy and the bot will leave you alone. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- You bot writers are a surly bunch of pricks, I give you that ;) That is not what I said. I know that isn't what you said, I figured it out for myself. I also figure out that you are too lazy to write a bot that parses for "rationale" (or "rational" for poor spellers like me) in the body of the article page. If you want some help doing this, let me know. The bot I wrote never, ever required editors use a tag or template just for the bot's pleasure, but then I'm not lazy like you. We don't write pages for bots. --Duk 00:36, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Searching for 'rationale' would allow people who don't write real rationales, such as yourself, to evade the bot. My current detection rules, which search for certain key terms or templates, seem to be correct, at least in this case. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Also, foundation level policy requires that the non-free state of images be 'machine-readable', so yes, we do write some pages for bots. Here, we're writing a page to ensure that copyright law and policy are followed. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 00:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- Could you please direct me to the 'machine readable' policy on en. My apologies if I missed that. Also, If this image gets deleted, it will be because of your little tantrum, not because it lacks a rationale or is the right thing to do. Please try to do what's best for the project and not what's best for your sensitive ego. This is as classic a fair-use case as they come. --Duk 00:50, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
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