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[edit] May 2008 - Let's Clean This Up

I'd like to make this a good article. Let's discuss in this talk page section how we can improve it. --Danorton 19:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "Saint" or "St." ?

Although the school's seal reads "Saint Stephen's" the school otherwise almost exclusively refers to itself as "St. Stephen's". Consequently, I've chosen the latter and made the usage consistent in the article. -- 04:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Misc

Someone did a major rewrite of this. Who was it, since I'm probably a classmate of yours?Foster2008 00:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


Does Boyd Vance really count as a famous alumnus!?!?! --Oliver Meek '97

He's all we got.Foster2008 00:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)----'08


DUDE wtf happened too the school page, and someone did a page on Mr. lynch which is pretty cool though.

Naming Chris Breckwoldt under the famous people category certainly does not count. Mr. Binky may be a great math teacher, but he is not famous. And Boyd Vance does count as a famous alum - he is well known in other circles besides Austin. Also.. "Jebby Smith" -- I'm PRETTY sure this is NOT the founder. Dear, sweet middle schoolers -- stop messing with wiki.70.253.81.24 00:15, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

someone should add a "contreversy" section or a section naming all the bad stuff that's happened there -- unsigned comment

You cannot have a "most unique" anything, as unique equals one of a kind. -- unsigned comment

I just added a "needs work" box on this page. My complaints primarily stem from the use of the following "weasel word" phrases:

  • "commonly known"
  • "widely regarded"
  • "widely recognized"
  • "wide appeal"

I'd prefer someone did some background checking and support the claims with objective references but, lacking that, it is my intention to remove the claims entirely. --Danorton 18:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Notability of Alumna Lauren C. King

I see no evidence to support the inclusion of Lauren C. King in the list of alumni. For more information, see the related Wikipedia guideline about notability. --Danorton 21:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Here's a google search of the production company listed that she works for: [1] and a link to her information on imdb : [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.165.83 (talk) 13:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Did a simple google search and noticed this as well: [3] According to the Screen Actors Guild she is producing five movies this year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.165.83 (talk) 13:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC) More links from google search: [4] [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.165.83 (talk) 14:11, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I see no reference to her in the SAG link and the other references are little more than directory entries. Thousands upon thousands of people have similar credits. Is there something that makes her particularly notable? Again, please review the related Wikipedia guideline about notability. --Danorton 16:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The SAG link lists her production company (according to imdb she is the CEO & Executive Producer) Angelblue Productions LLC and lists I counted at least four projects being filmed in Texas that her company is producing. Both Lauren King & Blake Mycoskie seem to have credits listed that are provided by neutral and legitimate sources. I hadn't noticed the thousands of other credits by alumni. Variety and Hollywood Reporter are considered pretty legitimate within the entertainment industry and outside, and they stated she specifically is executive producing those projects rather than a "directory entry". Just helping out since the page stated it needed assistance finding valid and verifiable information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.156.210 (talk) 21:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. There are many directors who are producing multiple films, so I'm still not seeing how this person is of encyclopedic notability. The following is lifted from the current version of the related notability guideline:
Scientists, academics, economists, professors, authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, engineers, and other creative professionals:
  • The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors.
  • The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
  • The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
  • The person's work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums, or had works in many significant libraries.

As stated below, I am finding the links for you guys for both Lauren King and Blake Mycoskie. My niece attends school in Katy ISD and Lauren King's production company donated a large amount of money to the schools. Katy ISD has set up an endowment in her name and HISD is in the process of doing the same. ABC News discussed this as well. I will provide you guys with the links for her as well, as stated below. Again, hopefully you will deem those rather noteworthy. In addition to the fact that she, like many others as you note, have produced many films as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.156.210 (talk) 22:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC) [6] Newspaper article in Ireland discussing Lauren King's upcoming production and the actors in it. [7] [8] [9]

Those are a few links. I am looking for the press releases published by Katy ISD and HISD last year discussing the endowment in Lauren King's name. Also the ABC News link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.124.98.21 (talk) 20:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Alum Blake Mycoskie

I do not see sufficient evidence to support the inclusion of Blake Mycoskie in the list of alumni. For more information, see the related Wikipedia guideline about notability. --Danorton 21:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Here's some links for Blake Mycoskie as well. His imdb page: [10], TOMS shoes google search: [11], and Blake Mycoskie google search: [12] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.165.83 (talk) 13:37, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Just found another link to include: [13] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.89.165.83 (talk) 13:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Several of the links you mentioned are published by Mycoskie himself. Millions of people have similar credits. Is there something that makes him particularly notable -- of encyclopedic notability? Again, please review the related Wikipedia guideline about notability. --Danorton 16:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Again, my apologies. Didn't realize that Blake had written the reviews on Oprah and Vanity Fair magazines. He has had quite a few interviews on television and in magazines and newspapers. More so than Boyd Vance. It seems particularly notable to people outside of Austin, Texas. The original statement for both Blake Mycoskie and Lauren King was that there was insufficient evidence to include them in the list of alumni. It stated that a simple google search provided mass quantities of information for Boyd Vance. Hence the reason you wrote a stub to support it. I was attempting to assist with finding information for you guys. I know according to IMDB, Lauren King is the CEO of Angelblue Productions, so therefore her company is producing the five films listed in SAG. SAG lists her company specifically as producing five films this year. I saw both Blake Mycoskie and Lauren King were listed in outside sources, that they clearly did not publish themselves. Boyd Vance, seems more notable within the Austin, Texas community rather than the entertainment industry. He wasn't listed in the IMDB at all, which seems fairly accurate and neutral. For a "prominent and notable" director it would seem that he would have had at least one entry in the imdb. I could be wrong. You said millions of people have similar credits, yet Boyd Vance did not. I thought both seemed particularly newsworthy. Again, my apologies, simply trying to be of assistance.

Could you possibly provide links to the articles you mention about Mycoskie? (If you look at the article about Boyd Vance, you'll see that the references are not to Google searches. There are only a very a tiny fraction of notable stage directors in IMDB.) Thank you. --Danorton 21:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I read the stub on Boyd Vance, and I noticed that all the references were from Austin TX outlets, that was why I stated he seems more notable within the Austin TX community. I am well aware of the number of stage directors in IMDB. I have worked within the entertainment industry for the past 20 years. I have had the pleasure of meeting both Blake Mycoskie and Lauren King. Both of which I have mentioned either their names or projects they are working on and people have heard of them. I know Katy ISD and Houston ISD as well as ABC news in Houston have done pieces on Lauren King and her production company's donations to the Houston schools. I will add her links above under her section. Below are some of the links for Blake Mycoskie:

http://www.america.gov/st/foraid-english/2008/February/20080228151911akllennoccm1.350039e-02.html [14] [15] [16] [17] These are a few that I found on the first few pages of a google search. Those should suffice for Blake Mycoskie, hopefully. The Vanity Fair article is a pictorial. I found the link on the photographer's site. Off to look for the link from Vanity Fair. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.62.156.210 (talk) 22:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Wonderful, thanks very much. I'm convinced. Now I just need to find out his last year of attendance... --Danorton 22:46, 9 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danorton (talk • contribs)

Blake graduated in 1996. . . Maybe I should take over this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.124.98.21 (talk) 20:23, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, no one can really "take over" or "own" a page. Generally, anyone at all can edit any page (most pages can be edited anonymously), and all are encouraged to edit boldly. Expect people to change what you edit. The best approach is to discuss it on the talk page if there's any question. But please, by all means, edit the article to include Blake's year of graduation and list him in order on the existing list. -- Danorton 01:15, 11 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danorton (talk • contribs)

[edit] Notability of Alum L. Jeffrey Minch

I do not see any evidence to support the inclusion of L. Jeffrey Minch in the list of alumni. For more information, see the related Wikipedia guideline about notability. --Danorton 21:11, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Note in this page's revision history that this section has been deleted three times by a person at Internet IP address 24.178.78.226.
  • This section was deleted again by someone at Internet IP address 190.33.59.59. --Danorton (talk) 02:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Alum Boyd Vance

The notability of Boyd Vance (Class of 1975) was questioned above. I believe that he satisfies the Wikipedia notability guideline. I cite the numerous independent articles easily located on the web by Google search.[21]

I have restored Boyd to the list of notable alumni. --Danorton 22:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

More information about Boyd Vance is on his wiki page that I just created. --Danorton 02:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)