Talk:St. Michael's College School
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[edit] The Blue Herald
I have recently added some material about the Blue Herald that had been removed before. This information pertains to the lack of independence it has and it's notorious on again/off again status within the school. The point is that, having worked closely with the Blue Herald during my time at SMC, I wittnessed it first hand when certain staff members, who shall remain anonyms, heavily edited the articles or changed photos so as not to create controversy. I feel that this is important information about the school's newspaper. Please feel free to comment.
[edit] Non-Sport Related Events
Although the school has a superb history of sporting victories, as an alumnist I must say that other groups were hardly appreciated or given any focus to. Only recently have the Arts and Sciences clubs/departments received long overdue funding, facilities and administrative support. So let me make the intent of this comment clear: the sports are great but the school truly needs to expand its horizons and dominate other aspects of academia.
[edit] Too Subjective
I have deleted (a good) portion of article since it does not fit with the wikipedia standard. The article is WAY too subjective.
[edit] Re: Too Subjective
I agree, although you did tear out a large portion of information that should have been left. Someone also decided to remove the robotics description, which should be there. The robotics club (which had its name changed) should be described as it was one of the largest non-athletic programs the school supported.
[edit] Sick and tired of stupid additions
I'd ask that those who add information to the St. Michael's College article keep it strictly objective. In the past few days there has been a flood of rude and subjective comments that degrade the schools image. Since this is a public outlet, those people wishing to express their emotional distress should write them in this particular discussion page. The article itself is to remain purely a description of the school minus any current events, news updates etc. Please keep these in line with the Wikipedia standard.
To keep the article in line with Wikipedia standards I removed the following disclaimer:
- == Article Editing Disclaimer ==
- This article has recently had overly subjective/degrading changes in the content. We ask that before you modify anything that you understand the rules and guidelines under Wikipedia. As a general rule please keep all subjective comments in the Discussion page (located above the article title). Also remember that this page is only a description of the school not a news outlet regarding school events. If you wish please include those in the Discussion article as well.
- We hope you will respect these wishes.
This disclaimer is both subjective and non-encyclopedic. The Talk page is where it should be, as it says itself. I'm not unsympathetic – vandalism is a constant annoyance here. However, this is not the way to deal with it. At least i don;t think it is – I'll go check. John FitzGerald 04:23, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
Oky, I checked – here's Wikipedia policy:
[edit] Dealing with vandalism
If you see vandalism, revert it. Additionally, leave warning messages on the vandal's talk pages. If the vandal has been properly warned yet continues, report them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Admins can block vandals as per the blocking policy. If you see someone else reverting vandalism, thank them for taking the time and offer any support or tips that you might be able to give.
When dealing with vandals be firm, but avoid being rude to them, as it only reinforces the vandal behaviour. In other words: be nice with the vandals!!
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[edit] To: John FitzGerald
I agree that's much better than the disclaimer addition I made. I'm not familiar with Wiki syntax yet so I wasn't aware these tags were available - I guess I should have read the policy in full detail before posting. Either way this is much better.
When I have the time I plan on replacing the crest image once again - I have a high-resolution version on one of my hard drives. I'll reduce it and thus get rid of the fuzzy look.
If possible (and if there are willing Wiki editors) it would be nice to see the following sections added: a list of notable alumni (aside from the athletes), the school mascot, the schools relationship with the St. Michael's Majors etc. It would be nice to see a few more photos up there as well.
Also if you don't know UCC also has a Wiki entry, take a look.
Cheers,
Dave
[edit] Make a separate page for St. Mike's and the NHL
I agree that the "notable alumni" should include all notable alumni from different fields, not just hockey. Also, you do not need to list everybody with the main article, you can have a separate article. UCC's wiki page does that. It lists just a few of the very most prominent with the main article and then has a separate page for the complete list. We could have, for example, the most prominent NHL players, ie. Lindsay, Mahovolich, Red Kelly, Eric Lindros on the main page, along with other non-hockey prominent alumni, and have a separate wiki page like "St. Mike's and the NHL" with the complete list of St.Mike's players who went on to play in the NHL. Brett Lindros can be on that list. The list with the main article should be for only the most well known and accomplished. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.190.9 (talk • contribs)
