Talk:St. John's School (Texas)

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this school is very good!

It might be worth adding Peter Roussel to the list of notable alumni. He served as a US deputy Press secretary in the 80's for Reagan and also as a press officer for former president Bush when he was UN ambassador and earlier for congress and was the recipient of an SJS alumni award a few years ago. If someone could check this out and update that once the vandalism protections are gone, that would be good.

For evidence, please see the school website-http://www.sjs.org/stories/default.asp?L2=6&newsid=44756

Somebody added four prominent alumni who, upon googling, seem to be current students. I deleted them.

STOP BLOODY CHANGING OUR CHANGES! THEY ARE CORRECT! WE WILL WIN THIS BATTLE! THE COLORS ARE RED AND BLACK!!!! not scarlet and black!!!!!!!!!!

How about some sdata for the assertion about SAT's and college placement.

Especially since it might not be accurate as-is if only the math and verbal scores are independently verified. If x is the median math score and y is the median verbal score, x+y is not necessarily the median aggregate. You would expect people from such a prestigious school to know better...

1 this article could be awesome
2 SAT data
3 Uniforms
4 Red vs Scarlet
5 Clyde Drexler?
6 School seal
7 Wikipedia:Vandalism from school IPs
8 Proposal to rename this article St. John's School (Houston)
9 Notable Alumni
10 Academic Reputation
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Maverickunveiling.jpg
12 Fair use rationale for Image:Quadwrapped2.JPG

[edit] this article could be awesome

we should model it after caulfield grammar, the only featured high school article. sjs is way more notable than that australian house of horrors.

There needs to be an update on the most recent Kinkaid vs. St. John's football game to read: "The most recent game was on 10/27/06." I cannot do it because I am a newly registered member.

[edit] SAT data

It's both verifiable and notable. Some people consider the SAT "elitist" per edit summaries, but that's not a reason to exclude information. Your time would be better spent enlarging the criticism of the SAT in that article. There is ample precedent in articles about other schools. 129.170.202.3 06:33, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Concur that it would be notable. However, how is it verifiable? If you can cite a reputable source, it should certainly be included. However, I'm aware of no company, organization, or service that has a way to calculate the mean SAT score for high schools. Dbchip 07:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

SAT mean scores 508 and 520, does that strike anyone else as sad? Tycoonjack 04:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Admittedly, the data is from the School's webiste... Savidan 08:20, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

That link was down, so someone has to repost the 'proof' of the SAT score range. --Substantiate 05:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Uniforms

Is it true that uniforms must be bought from a particular store, Sue Mills? -Will Beback 21:54, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I can't speak for St. John's School, but that's not an unusual policy. Dbchip 22:03, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

When I attended (1987-2000), uniform purchases were required to be from Sue Mills but many students skirted this policy with clothing that looks identical to Sue Mills clothing. Tycoonjack 23:22, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Most of our uniforms (skirts, pants, polo shirts) have to be bought from Sue Mills, although there are a few things that can be bought elsewhere (belts and oxford shirts)

70.240.186.146 20:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)Mysticfeline

Why "men" and "girls"? Shouldn't this be either "men" and "women" or "boys" and "girls"?

[edit] Red vs Scarlet

For those that think SJS is RED and black, I point you to page 4 of the Lower School Handbook. "The motto of the School is Faith and Virtue; the colors are scarlet and black; students sing the Alma Mater at chapel services and at other school functions." Ok good? Now stop changing it. I know the fight chants are "red and black - attack", but that is just because saying scarlet and black sounds, well, rather poor. Tycoonjack 01:27, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clyde Drexler?

I don't think Clyde Drexler attended SJS. I think I would have heard that at some previous point.

his kids attend currently, but he did notTycoonjack 05:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah, ok. He did recently do a fundraiser for the quad club, though. --Evan7257 06:15, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School seal

The traditional school seal (or crest) does not appear with this article. Instead, the graphic shows the logo that the school uses for "branding" purposes.

a) Why not show the school seal somewhere?

b) Has anyone noticed that the crest of St. John's School is virtually identical to that of Trinity-Pawling School? Even the mottos are nearly the same ("Faith and Virtue" vs. "Fides et Virtus"). I remember reading somewhere, many years ago, that Alan Lake Chidsey or some other SJS founder had ties to Trinity-Pawling before World War II and that he brought that influence to bear on the young St. John's. Does anyone know more about that? If so, please add something to the history section. I am sure that the similarity in school seals is no accident.
Poldy Bloom 04:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up
According to an issue of The Northumberland County Historical Society's bulletin from 1945 (which I found on-line), Chidsey was headmaster of Pawling, as well as the Arizona Desert School. I do not know why this fact is not mentioned on the SJS website; but, as I wrote, I did read it somewhere about 20 years ago.

I will change the main article accordingly.
Poldy Bloom 04:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Vandalism from school IPs

I notice a lot of kids from St. John's have vandalized The Kinkaid School article. So, I contacted the school. I hope I get a good, timely response :) WhisperToMe 00:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for following up. Luckily, most of the vandalsim appears directed at this article. -Will Beback 21:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

The annual game betwen SJS and KHS is over. My guess is with that, the vandalism should cease. SJS won for the second year in a row. More accurately, the KHS center snapped the ball, and fumbled, when the KHS quarterback was trying to draw the offside call on 4th and 1. I guess SJS students are indeed smarter than their rivals.

[edit] Proposal to rename this article St. John's School (Houston)

I propose moving this page to St. John's School (Houston), and moving the disambiguation page currently at St. John's School (disambiguation) here. There are many schools called St. John's worldwide. CarolGray 13:39, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Alumni

Please stop adding my name to the list of Notable Alumni. This is vandalism - don't add it back. I graduated from this school in 2006 and am currently attending UPenn.

Sincerely,

Emily McDowell 165.123.221.107 07:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't doubt that Whitney Alsup was in Playboy, the but ref link didn't lead anywhere --Substantiate 05:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

References don't have to be active weblinks. They can cite pritned material, in this case a magazine. -Will Beback · † · 08:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

The things you can learn on Wikipedia Evan7257 17:38, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Laura Richmond. Really?Evan7257 05:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Academic Reputation

"St. John's is widely regarded as having the most rigorous academics of any secondary school in the city of Houston." Biased? Yes. It needs a source.

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