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[edit] The Major - and Equivalents

While Liberal Arts helps, sometimes an employer or grad school that is not familiar with St. John's wants to know more. It seems that there used to be information in the college literature that offered some alternative explanations: a major in the History of Mathematics and Science" , or something like that, plus others, and minors as well. However a google site search turned up nothing similar.

Though there are many ways of explaining the unique St. John's program, the alternative descriptions of the majors and minor might help the wikipedia reader -who may well be an individual looking at a student getting ready to reenter reality- better understand the program.

Editors please, can you work a bit on this topic? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.72.223 (talk) 16:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I do believe that the SJC literature specifically says that one receives a B.A. in "Liberal Arts." I don't see any alternative names or titles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.9.178 (talk) 02:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
I am a current student in Santa Fe, and oral tradition holds that our degree used to be described as a double-major, double-minor in classics, philosophy, history of math and science, and comparative literature, although I cannot find any actual enunciation of this, and cannot remember which degrees were supposed to be majors and which minors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.69.190.75 (talk) 14:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] .COM

Check out the new site! It lists specific requirements of accreditation that SJC fails to satisfy. It ought to be an external link on this website. What do you guys think? 76.24.27.138 (talk) 04:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

if i created a website explaining why i liked goodyear tires and didn't like michelin tires - thought michelin tires had ruined my life even, do you think it would be appropriate for me to add that website to the michelin article? or if i made a site called "cowboys rule, titans suck" - would you consider that a worthy link to the tennesee titans page? everyone that creates a website can't expect it to link to the wikipedia article on the recipient of their criticisms. why don't you create an account and post your link on your user page? reading through the rest of the talk page here regarding your site, i don't think it can be any clearer that it's not appropriate as a link to this article. J. Van Meter (talk) 15:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I honestly cannot believe you are still hammering away at this a year later. Please, please take a step back, look into the mirror, and realize that you are acting like a crazy person. Malingered (talk) 21:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Since there is a positive statement about St. John's from Bernard M. Davidoff, I think we ought to include a negative one from Mr. Torres. It only seems fair to include two quotes from former St. John's students, one good and the other bad. What do you guys think? 76.24.27.138 (talk) 14:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

have you been quoted in the washington post or the NYT? quotes taken from your own website just won't cut it on this site -- not just in this article. that's wikipedia-wide policy. i couldn't create a website called "Turns out, Picasso wasn't a Genius" and then quote myself on the Picasso page. that, essentially, is what you're proposing here. J. Van Meter (talk) 15:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
and by the way, i'm not sure why you feel this article is so biased. it includes a rather large criticism section which, i've just noticed, is missing entirely from articles here on other colleges with potentially controversial curricula or programs (eg. Reed, Bard, Sarah Lawrence, Shimer, The New School). J. Van Meter (talk) 15:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] THEXAMINEDCURRICULUM.COM

Hey guys! Why don't we add a link to this website? It has Sidney Hook's essay, and lists SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS OF ACCREDITATION THAT SJC FAILS TO SATISFY. Wow, that sounds exciting! Let's discuss it, Johnnies. OK? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.27.138 (talk) 13:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

No. We've already had this discussion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.219.38 (talk) 00:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize that. What did we say? 76.24.27.138 (talk) 00:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Among other things, we expressed distress at flagrant sockpuppetry. Emoedison (talk) 09:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GI and EC info needed

  • What about more discussion of the Grad Program and (especially) the Eastern Classics Curriculum??? Aristophanes68 (talk) 02:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC) (SF 96, EC 02)
  • Update: I just checked the college webpage, and they don't have a full list of the EC readings -- does anyone have one available that they could add on the main page under the "curriculum" section"? Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Another update: I wrote up a quick description of the EC program -- but I'm not sure it belongs just under the Great Books Section. Should it go closer to the Curriculum section? (I still can't find a simple reading list for the entire program.) Aristophanes68 (talk) 06:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] alumni userbox

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Feel free to add it to your page! Aristophanes68 (talk) 06:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] move Curriculum section higher?

I'm trying to see where else the EC description should go, and I wonder why the Curriculum section is so far down the list. It would make more sense to put it much earlier, especially since it is THE defining element and the factor that attracted so many of us. Yes/No? Aristophanes68 (talk) 05:45, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

While we're talking about the curriculum section, it should be noted that only selections of many of these works are read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.27.138 (talk) 02:48, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

  • True, but that could mean in theory AND in practice!!! LOL! (I personally gave up halfway through Marx...) Aristophanes68 (talk) 02:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Whatchamacallit tree

brief mention probably ought to be made of the many hundred year old tree that had to be felled some years ago. i think it was pre-columbian. it was , i believe, mortally wounded in hurricane isabel. other college articles mention landmarks on campus.Toyokuni3 (talk) 03:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)