Talk:St. Elsewhere

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[edit] Names to faces

Let's see if we can put names with the faces (per the image that is now in the article). I'll take a crack at it here on the talk page, and when we get it all correct, we can move it to the article.

Front row, let to right:

Second row, left to right:

Third row, left to right:


Others (not shown in picture

Does nobody else know?

Atlant 17:25, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Otto1970 04:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)Otto1970 can confirm that the names for the photo are all correct
Thanks! I'll get this into the article soon. Atlant 12:28, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I replaced the cumbersome group portrait caption with a MediaWiki image map. It's supposed to be a stable feature, but if too many users complain, replace it with the image tag of my previous clean-up, 23:48, 7 December 2007. —QuicksilverT @ 02:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Linkspam

Sorry about that. Wasn't trying to do "linkspam." Was just trying to provide details on the much-anticipated DVD. Went overboard I guess, if that was too much. Otto1970 23:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The final episode

Apologies for not referencing the 'imagination' assertion straight out. Doing a Google News archive search against 'Tommy Westphall' produces numerous hits from articles over the last 18 years with exactly that assertion; it has not been stated as a fact, but 'One of the more common interpretations', which I believe is probably the appropriate phrasing when referenced, as it is now. Skybunny 16:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Recently viewed the final episode and so I fixed the quote attributed to Donald Westphall regarding his autistic son at the end of the final episode. Precise quote is: "I don't understand this autism thing, Pop. Here's my son. I talk to him. I don't even know if he can hear me, because he sits there, all day long, in his own world, staring at that toy. What's he thinkin' about?" Otto1970 05:02, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] So, where do we take the entry from here?

I feel like this article has come a long way in the past 12 months. Any thoughts on what the next couple of steps should be? The "trivia" and "crossovers/in-jokes" areas are quite long, but I honestly don't think there is much fat in them. The trivia info is fairly notable. And the crossovers/in-jokes were such an important element of the show and it's place in TV history. In fact, I would argue that quite a bit is missing from crossovers/in-jokes. A whole sub-section could be done on the specific MTM crossovers and intertextuality that St. Elsewhere wove into its story threads in various ways. (For example, the episode that ends as an ironic homage to the credits of The Mary Tyler Moore Show.) Otto1970 05:07, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

I think the next steps for the page would be greater detail on the various characters on the show, plot synopses, and so forth. Bjdwsm (talk) 05:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessment

I've re-assessed this article for WP:TV as requested here. I've not actually changed the ratings (which are currently B class and mid importance) as I think they are appropriate. The article is lacking important sections like response (including critical response and ratings, although there is an awards section), production (although the crew are mentioned in the overview section and the trivia sections includes lots of information relevant to production) and a plot synopsis (which is currently limited to the last episode). The trivia section should be re-distributed into appropriate prose sections. Lists should be re-written as prose - aim for the reader unfamiliar with the show (as one such reader the list of characters was rather dull for me). The article includes in-text external links which should be either moved to the external links section or converted into citations as per the manual of style. Please note that a more formal assessment by other editors is required to achieve good article or featured article status. I used criteria from the television wikiproject guidelines here, article about TV series guidelines here and the assessment guidelines here.--Opark 77 09:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Stelsewhere.jpg

Image:Stelsewhere.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot (talk) 06:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Looking for help writing an article about the spin-offs and crossovers of this series

I am writing an article about all of the series which are in the same shared reality as this one through spin-offs and crossovers. I could use a little help expanding the article since it is currently extremely dense and a bit jumbled with some sentence structures being extremely repetitive. I would like to be able to put this article into article space soon. Any and all help in writing the article would be appreciated, even a comment or two on the talk page would help. Please give it a read through, also please do not comment here since I do not have all of the series on my watch list. - LA @ 17:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)