User talk:Srijon
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--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bengali lyrics
I'm not sure of this but out of all the Indian languages, probably the first translation of The Internationale was in Bengali. Also, the first true countrywide revolutionary communist movement in India, was launched in Naxalbari,a village in West Bengal, from where it gets its name i.e, the Naxalite Movement. As this movement continues to grow and challenge the ruling classes, I think that it is significant enough to have the Bengali lyrics in Wiki.
-Srijon
- The lyrics themselves do not constitute encyclopedic content; you can refer to the past discussions in the article, which agreed to move single language versions (of which there were many) to WikiSource. I know that the Naxalite movement is currently very important, but a large number of other important socialist, communist and anarchist movements since 1871 were inspired by the song. From the encyclopedic point of view, there's nothing special about a movement happening now, so if this were sufficient to include Bengali lyrics, very many others, for example Spanish (because of Spanish Civil War, and Cuban Revolution), German, Hungarian, Tagalog etc. would need to be included as well.
- Most importantly, Wikipedia follows WP:NPOV, so whatever our personal feelings may be, the fact that the song inspires a movement is absolutely not a sufficient reason to post the lyrics *at all*.
- As for your second argument, that Bengali was the first Indian translation of the Internationale, it is true that there are very many Bengali speakers and that India is the world's second most populous country, so you could build a case around this. However, in order to justify it, you would need to (1) make sure that this indeed was the first translation and (2) accompany the lyrics with at least an outline of the history of the song in India. Still, there are more Spanish speakers than Bengali speakers in the world, and Internationale as a song, I think, has made more history when sung in Spanish than in Bengali; I may be wrong. In spite of this, the Spanish translation is not included; it would overburden the article. It would *maybe* make sense to have a separate article called The Internationale in Spanish, or The Internationale in Bengali. Even if this were the case, though, the separate article would *absolutely* need to include some encyclopedic content, not only song text.
- Please let me know what you think... You can leave the message on my talk page.
- Miranche 06:43, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
- No reply in 3 days... Erasing Bengali lyrics again.
- Miranche 19:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] afd
an afd, you might be interested in: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Communist propaganda. --Soman (talk) 18:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Trotskyism
Your user page isn't the best place to have this discussion. The article talk page is the right place. ha way, the discusson will be in one place and easy for others to also take part in. --Duncan (talk) 08:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
