Talk:Srbobran

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"After the Bačka region was liberated from the Ottoman Empire by Habsburg troops"

  • And who was "liberated" in that time? Perhaps Ottomans also "liberated" land from infidels in 1526???

"1848 was still the year of Revolution. The Austrian could not establish this year the Serbian Vojvodina"

  • Serbian Vojvodina was established by Serbs in 1848. Austrians established another province in 1849 with name Vojvodina of Serbia and Tamiš Banat. These two are different things.

"It is not propaganda, and not stupid. You probably don't like hear that an entire nation was extinguished in Vojvodina in 1945. Please, feel free to write about Serbian history in Srbobran"

  • If you write that "ethnic Germans and Hungarians" were persecuted by the Yugoslav state after WW2, and not write that numerous people of all nationalities were persecuted during the war, then your writting is obviously propaganda against the Yugoslav state. I have to inform you about some facts here:

1. The Axis Powers occupied the city and entire Vojvodina in 1941 and during the four years of occupation they commited genocide against the civilian population: numerous Serbs, Jews, but also Hungarians and others who were against the Axis regime were murdered. This also affected Srbobran. All nations of Vojvodina: Serbs, Hungarians, Slovaks, Croats and others were part of partisan resistance movement and fought against the occupation. Only German population did not participated in the resistance movement and that is why Yugoslav authorities decided to deduct Yugoslav citizenship from German population. However, most of the German population left from Vojvodina before partisan forces entered German populated settlements, so it is simply not correct that they were "expelled".

2. As for the Hungarians, they participated in partisan resistance movement in the large number. For example, in parts of northern Bačka, the majority of partisans were ethnic Hungarians. So, if some Hungarians who colaborated with Axis regime were killed there after the war, they were killed by other Hungarians who were partisans.

3. As for the history of Srbobran, if you really want to post this crap about persecutions, you first should to write how civilians (of all nationalities) were killed and persecuted by the Axis authorities, and only after that about consequences of Axis occupation, such are emigration of Germans and revenge against those who colaborated with Axis regime during the war. That would be the neutral way of writting.

"These links were all in Serbian language. You can put them perhaps to the Serbian page about Srbobran in Wikipedia, can't you?"

  • Perhaps you do not like what is written there? I do not see why these links should not be posted, no matter in which language they are written. User:PANONIAN

PANNONIAN!

I know what are you going to write here, and I think, every one could guess it if one tries to read anything about Hungarians in Vojvodina region. Just try write your own name and the word "Hungarian" in Google surch program: I am sick of it. I will certainly not have any discussion with you. There were enough polemies about this issue with you here and on the entire world wide web. Your anti-Hungarian possession is just amazing. Vojvodina 23:28, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

So what is your problem really? I never wrote anything against Hungarians on Wikipedia. I only want to clean the Vojvodina articles from the Hungarian, Croatian (and other) anti-Vojvodinian nationalistic POV. If somebody is a Hungarian nationalist then it is obvious why my work would disturb him. As for the history of Hungarians in Vojvodina, there are several articles about Hungarian history here:

So, the one who want to read something about Hungarian history could very easy to find these articles. User:PANONIAN