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Sig

I happened to see your sig somewhere (I think on an open RfA), and noticed that the code could be tweaked some.

Here's your current sig (173 characters):

S_QL^{Query me!}

<font style="background:#990000;color:#FFFFFF;border:2px solid #999999">[[User:SQL|S_QL]]</font>[[User talk:SQL|<font color="#999999">^{Query me!}</font>]]

And here's your signature after I tweaked the code some (155 characters):

S_QL^{Query me!}

[[User:SQL|<span style="color: #fff;background:#900;border:2px solid #999">S_QL</span>]][[User talk:SQL|<sup style="color:#999">Query me!</sup>]]

It looks (or at least, should look) the same, but gets rid of the font tags (which are bad), and slims down the code some. Just thought I'd drop you a line. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

OOH! Thank you so much! :) I've updated / changed it to your version (with a minor tweak) SQL^{Query me!} 05:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Always happy to help out with sigs. :) One of the nice things about the current method is that it's easy to adding some spacing between the gray border and the white text (just add padding: 1px to the first span tag's style and voila, instant spacing). It's also syntactically correct, but I think that I'm about the only one on Wikipedia that cares about that. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:10, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

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Hi SQL. Thanks for having a look at the situation, but I'm a bit confused about your comments - you say that "No.57 may remove things from his talk page", but then say that the diffs of me removing the warning templates from my talk page is "Therefore... troubling indeed". Which is it?

Perhaps you would care to cast your eye over Talk:Bescot Stadium and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Stadium_names. Do you think User:B1atv is still entitled to put a {{POV-title}} tag on the article or am I correct in assessing the discussions to be in favour of non-sponsorship names (I counted eight for traditional names, 1 for sponsored names (User:B1atv) and 1 for sponsor names who seems to have become a neutral)? пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the diffs, to me, seemed to illustrate mild talk page harassment, and, gaming 3rr on the part of the parties repeatedly placing the templates, which, was a bit troubling... I probably could have worded that better, and, most likely will in a moment (about to leave for work, however)... I tell ya what, I'll take a look at that article when I get back home. SQL^{Query me!} 21:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for clearing that up, and I look forward to your input. пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your support.

Remember, remember, the fifth of November? Thank you to everyone who participated in my Request for adminship, which was successful at 50/5/0 on November 5th, 2007. It became, as you may know, rather contentious toward the end (though fortunately no gunpowder was involved), and I appreciate the work of other Wikipedians to keep it focused. --Thespian 02:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

New dump

OK, we'll take it easy. Be interesting to see how any articles you pick up. Rich Farmbrough, 14:10 23 October 2007 (GMT).

Any news? Rich Farmbrough, 10:21 28 October 2007 (GMT).

Image:Jeff Summit Inn.jpg

It seems to me that WP:IAR would apply to images like the above, can't see why anyone should have to jump through hoops to get rid of useless content. IvoShandor 03:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

I understand your concern, however, the reason of "Vanity Image", simply does not even remotely fit any of the criteria to speedy delete an image. You might want to try WP:IFD, instead (kinda like WP:AFD, but, for images). Drop me a line, if you need a hand with the IFD process.

No thanks, I just came across the image and felt it had no place on Wikipedia, you obviously feel that it does. I don't have time to play encyclopedia. IvoShandor 15:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

User:84.45.219.185

Care to reblock User:84.45.219.185? Our buddy User:Whitmorewolveyr seems unable to control himself. --jpgordon^∇∆∇∆ 15:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• I'm not sure it should be reblocked, maybe we should give the IP a chance, in case it gets re-assigned (I've no idea how long ENTANET IPs last for before someone else gets the IP). It's listed at Wikipedia:List of public terminal or wireless access point IP addresses‎ so maybe we should err on the side of caution: other public terminal IPs have been blocked and unblocked hundreds of times for vandalism. If it was an open proxy, then it should have been blocked indefinitely, but if it's from a public PC/wireless access point, maybe we should be careful about blocks. That's my 0.02 cents. Thanks, --Solumeiras ^talk 18:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Done. That IP has been given more than enough chances. However, I didn't reblock for indef this time, just 3 years. If someone else wants to unblock, that's fine by me, however ill advised. SQL^{Query me!} 20:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Another RfA Spaming

Thank you for supporting me in my recent RFA which did not pass at (18/27/10). I will be sure to improve my editing skills and wait until someone nominates me next time. Thank you for you comments! Tiptoety 00:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Question about a revert...

Hey, I noticed this: [1].... I was curious, how's that vandalism? Granted, I probably would have declined it, but, still they shouldn't be simply reverted, unless they're being used abusively... In that case, you'd want to protect the page, and slap an {{unblockabuse}} up top... SQL^{Query me!} 21:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry! I was reverting his vandalism to your talk page, and because he was impersonating you, you could say he tricked me into it! I didn't realise it was his talk page I was reverting. Argh! As an aside, will adding {{unblockprotected}} at the top alert an administrator to come and block the page? I'm not an admin myself, although I'm 'experienced' (you could say), and I wasn't aware that adding that template could be done by normal editors? Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 21:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Wait! He wasn't impersonating you. He was impersonating The JPS (talk · contribs). You see how easily these things happen? lol! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 22:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, no worries, I was just curious :) I also didn't look into it at all, I didn't know impersonation was going on... Good work :) SQL^{Query me!} 22:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Sock case you handled

Hiya dear, I was wondering if you would look into this new username, which I believe is a sockpuppet that you've dealt with before. User talk:MoreGunsInSchools, if you recall, had an RFCN for the username, and created the name User:Every Child Should Carry A Gun!) to influence the discussion. MoreGunsInSchools's contributions were focused on the article Frank Lasee, and now a new editor pops up, User:NoMoreGunsInSchoolz on the same article [2] [3]. I think it is a pretty safe bet that this is another sockpuppet of that user, so since you were the one that handled the issue earlier, I figured I'd bring this to you, so you could take any actions you see fit. Thanks! Ariel♥Gold 23:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, great catch! How'd you find him? :) I've indef blocked the user in question; I've absolutely no doubt, between the name, and the contribs, that it's the same user. Thank you, very much! :) SQL^{Query me!} 00:16, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Rosendo Sanchez

Would you mind deleting this article? Thanks. Tiptoety 04:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Y Done But, I deleted it as an advertisement, instead of the A7. It was also a mild copyvio... SQL^{Query me!} 04:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

That is what i originally tagged it as, but another use came along and tagged for A7. Thanks! Tiptoety 04:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha :) Notta problem! SQL^{Query me!} 04:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, would you mind taking a look at Jadeed as well, i would really appreciate it (if you are not to busy). Tiptoety 04:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Sure, I looked :) To satisy A2, what other wikimedia project does it exist on? Otherwise, it should be tagged with {{notenglish}}, and listed at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English for review and possible translation. (See: WP:CSD#A2) :) SQL^{Query me!} 04:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

lol, here, at least i think im right, am i missing something? Tiptoety 04:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, you got me, I don't think I have the right fonts installed, let me see if I can find them :) SQL^{Query me!} 04:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks again. Tiptoety 04:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

And look here, he re-created the article Rosendo Sanchez. deletion time again :). Tiptoety 04:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, User:Caribbean H.Q. beat me to it :) If it happens again, I'll Salt it... SQL^{Query me!} 04:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Yea, i saw. Tiptoety 04:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

How comes the status of Jadeed? If you aren't able to install those fonts, do you know someone who has them installed? (i swear i am not rushing you, lol) :) Tiptoety 05:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Tracking down the fonts I need, is starting to seem a more daunting task than I originally thought :) I'll ask around in the admins IRC channel, if I can't get it nailed down :) (Or, someone else will get it on CSD patrol, sooner or later :) )SQL^{Query me!} 05:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Tiptoety 05:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Resolved. Okay, an admin has deleted it (though his explanation for doing so does not seem correct), but either way, you are off the hook! Thanks for all your help! Tiptoety 06:57, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Rangeblock idea

Regarding 84.45.219.185 (talk · contribs), I have a better suggestion - rather than a 3-year block, why not do a rangeblock instead?? The aforementioned IP is within the range 84.45.128.0/17 (talk · contribs), so if it was rangeblocked, it could stop him from IP-switching (which the vandal probably might do!) and won't cause too much collateral damage.

Maybe make the block expire in a week/fortnight or so, and that may well solve the problem. I did get a series of spam attacks on my wiki from this IP range, so blocked it and it stopped the problem. 84.45.219.185 wasn't the only guilty IP address! It seems you have to rangeblock to stop vandalism in this IP range... blocking one IP doesn't stop it! Thanks, --Solumeiras ^talk 23:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

That IP seems relatively stable... Plus, it's the only place I've seen issues from... Unfortunately, I'm not comfortable making a rangeblock, without evidence of massive and widespread disruption here, from the better part of the whole /17... (I'm actually not a huge fan of rangeblocks to begin with....) That being said, if someone else wanted to unblock that IP, and, range it, or, shorten it, I'd have absolutely no objections... SQL^{Query me!} 05:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:ACC question

Replied on my talk page. --barneca (talk) 14:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Another possible sockpuppet

User:IntelligentVoter looks like yet another possible sockpuppet of User:MoreGunsInSchools. See the Frank Lasee article history and his contributions. Arthur 19:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I've blocked the user indefinately, and, semi-protected the article for two weeks. Hopefully, that'll give us a break from the disruption for a while. Thanks, for keeping an eye out! SQL^{Query me!} 21:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I requested semi-protection on it yesterday, but was denied. I think getting a new sockpuppet every couple of days certainly calls for some kind of action. I actually got a 3RR warning from another admin over trying to comply with WP:BLP. Thanks again. Arthur 21:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Yet another potential one has appeared, something to keep your eye on. Arthur 21:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

User:Canterberry

As you brought the sockpuppetry mess regarding this user to an end last time, could you have a look at this accusation which has been posted on my talk page, and offer your thoughts? As there are assorted bad-faith accusations flying around regarding me, I don't want to get directly involved (although the evidence looks overwhelming). — iridescent 00:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks! Thank you for voicing your opinion in my RfA, which passed with 54 supports, 2 opposes and 3 neutrals. Thanks for your support, I really appreciate it. I hope to exceed expectations, If you have any advice please feel free to let me know. Thanks again!. --¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤

Approval

Could you please approve JJBot? Thanks. Dreamy ^§ 23:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Y Done, they'll need to re-activate that brfa soon (it appears like that'll happen), or, I suspect someone will remove the approval... SQL^{Query me!} 05:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I will probably reactivate it within a week or two.   jj137 (Talk) 21:09, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks   jj137 (Talk) 21:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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User:MSWiki

Hello, you have created account for the person right? Can you tell me the story, how did you happen to help to create the account? And are you sure that this name does not violate the Username policy? I think it does, because "mswiki" is the code for Malay Wikipedia. Thanks.
P/S: Please don't block him even though you agree with me, I've adviced him. --Edmund the King of the Woods! 09:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

That was over a month ago; so, I really don't recall specifically. If I had access to my e-mail right now, I could at least narrow it down. It was likely either at WP:ACC or, via the unblock-en-l mailing list. They seem to be making mostly positive edits, and, I really don't see everything with wiki in it, to be a username policy violation. SQL^{Query me!} 10:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you, SQL, for supporting my RfB, which I withdrew at a final tally of (33/12/1). I failed to overcome the not unforeseeable opposition, but I am humbled by some extremely supportive, encouraging words I could read. In order to honor your trust, I once again vow to continue working and improving. Please contact me should you have any advice or recommendation to give. Or, should you need assistance. I am, as will always be, at your service. Again, please accept my most sincere gratitude. Best regards, Húsönd 03:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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SQLBot and WikiProject banners

I'm not sure the coding you're using, but would you take a look at {{WikiProjectBannerShell}}, and {{WikiProjectBanners}}? For instance, this edit really should have looked like this instead. Thanks! And if you ever need Bot help for projects like this, let me know - SatyrBot has been coded specifically for WikiProject banners. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, I'm looking at some code to correct the problem now. More than likely search for "/\{\{WikiProjectBannerShell\|1=/i" , and if found, place the banner to be added to the first "\r\n}}" that it comes across. Given that you have experience with this sort of thing, does that sound about right? SQL^{Query me!} 20:39, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, I got it nailed down. See [4], for an example. a fairly simple preg_replace() got it. Thanks for the suggestion! :) SQL^{Query me!} 21:10, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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		Excellent job on SxWiki! Now writing a wikitool in PHP is about as difficult as doing a copy/paste. :-) — xDanielx T/C\R 06:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much! :) (Actually, that's something that worries me too...) SQL^{Query me!} 07:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

That's okay. I probably won't use it directly since I need to learn CURL sooner or later, but I'm sure it will be a handy reference! Thanks again. — xDanielx ^T/_C\^R 19:18, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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You've got more mail! Ariel♥Gold 12:15, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey are you on IRC? (I'm same name there if you want to ping me) If not, what OS are you running? That's a wild looking desktop, lol. Ariel♥Gold 12:46, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, GNOME on Debian running Iceweasel :) SQL^{Query me!} 12:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

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SxWiki question

Hello SQL,

I have encountered the same problem with the SxWiki library that I have encountered on my own -- do you have any idea what's causing this and how it can be avoided? Thanks in advance, Gutza ^{T T+} 21:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Strange :) I ignore starttime as far as the user is concerned, but, I do capture it... Here's an example, of the $postData array:

Array
(
    [wpScrolltop] => 
    [wpSection] => 
    [wpEditToken] => (redacted)+\
    [wpAutoSummary] => d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
    [wpSummary] => Edit summary here
    [wpTextbox1] => New page data
    [wpSave] => Save page
    [wpStarttime] => 20071128043157
    [wpEdittime] => 20071124071248
    [wpMinoredit] => 0
)

The regex I use to get it is: '/\<input type\=\\\'hidden\\\' value\=\"(.*)\" name\=\"wpStarttime\" \/\>/i'... I generally don't have it pass it on to the user however... just the server... HTH SQL^{Query me!} 04:35, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, then I must be doing something wrong, because my code still doesn't get wpStarttime and wpEdittime from the server, even when using your library. I'm using the library here: User:SQL/SxWiki/Source. My test code which does not work is this:

<?php
include("SxWiki.php"); //Include framework
$url = 'http://ro.wikipedia.org/w/'; //Set for the English Wikipedia
$sxLgTA = sxLogin("VerifierBot",''); //Log in
$sxLgID = $sxLgTA[uid];
$sxLgT = $sxLgTA[token];
$maxlag = "5"; //Set maxlag to 5
$epm = setEPM(10); //set 10 edits per min.
 
$r=sxPutPage("Wikipedia:WikiVerifier_Beta/Modifc%C4%83ri_neverificate", "test", 'foobar', 0);
echo ($r?'yay':'nay')."\n";
?>

I didn't include the password on purpose, but it is correct and the login works. At the end of the execution I get "yay", but nothing changes on Wikipedia. I added the following line just after the four preg_match statements in sxPutPage:

echo "starttime: {$starttime[1]}; edittime: {$edittime[1]}\n";

The output is "starttime: ; edittime:". Do you have any idea what I'm doing wrong? --Gutza ^{T T+} 07:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Not as of yet, I'll be able to look at it more in depth a little later today, however... (no access to php right now) SQL^{Query me!} 14:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. If you want to test hands-on right on the same page I am, I'd be happy to provide you with a temporary password for that robot on the Romanian Wikipedia via e-mail. --Gutza ^{T T+} 15:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC) >

Hrm, I did what you did, and, here's the output I got:

sql@taurus:~/SxWiki$ php test_start.php 

Logged in as SQL 
starttime: 20071129031825; edittime: 20071129031507
yay

I did slightly modify your code, to run under my own user, and, to post to ro:Utilizator:SQL/Sandbox instead...

Might be a libcurl issue, what's this output for you:

<?php
print_r(curl_version());
?>

Another (probably better) idea: Did you copy the SxWiki source, from the edit page (here), or, the project page? I meant to mention, that wikipedia uses htmltidy, which screws up some code, when output.... and, it wrecked my regexes, especially the starttime / edittime ones, last time I synced from the page.... If you haven't already, try copying it over from the edit page (I'll get off my duff and start a SVN on sourceforge soon, so this won't be as much of an issue :)) Anyhow, hopefully, that helps :) SQL^{Query me!} 03:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I just deleted about 20 lines of text -- I think I found it. The problem seems to be related to the title of the article -- the article I was testing with contains diacriticals, yours doesn't. I was able to edit your test page without a glitch. Try editing ro:Utilizator:SQL/Problemuţă ("problemuţă" means little problem in Romanian) -- you'll most probably end up with my previous results... --Gutza ^{T T+} 16:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look at that in a sec :) I'll try trapping the request URL as well, I might need to add some extra URL encoding support, maybe... SQL^{Query me!} 05:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

HMM. I agree, this has to do with the article's title, most likely :( I can't figure out what's up, either... Here's what this run gave me, and, all links worked for me, but, the bot did not post! :(

sql@taurus:~/SxWiki$ php test_start.php 

Logged in as SQL 
starttime: 20071130060010; edittime: 20071129160131
Request URL: http://ro.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&title=Utilizator%3ASQL%2FProblemu%C5%A3%C4%83
Post URL: http://ro.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utilizator%3ASQL%2FProblemu%C5%A3%C4%83&action=submit&maxlag=5
Array
(
    [wpScrolltop] => 
    [wpSection] => 
    [wpEditToken] => (redacted)+\
    [wpAutoSummary] => d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
    [wpSummary] => test
    [wpTextbox1] => foobar
    [wpSave] => Save page
    [wpStarttime] => 20071130060010
    [wpEdittime] => 20071129160131
)
yay
1

Screenshot of the HTML dump

It's gotta be the title... I tried encoding it as utf_8, I've tried various raw encodes... I'll see if I can find a dev, that might have some hints :) SQL^{Query me!} 06:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Here's something odd.... When I dump the output from the rowiki, it looks like it's asking my bot for a captcha! Odd indeed... SQL^{Query me!} 06:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Now that's interesting! I never noticed that -- but then again, my bot isn't being served wpStarttime and wpEdittime at all, so I'm probably running on a different if() branch in MediaWiki. :-) --Gutza ^{T T+} 07:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

It's just barneca nagging again

move protection on WP:ACC? --barneca (talk) 14:45, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Hahaha :) It's high time you did it yourself! :P SQL^{Query me!} 14:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Must be something in the water today. --barneca (talk) 15:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Y Done SQL^{Query me!} 14:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, yeah well, I *may* have read that first :P SQL^{Query me!} 03:27, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

oh... I thought maybe there was an irresistible groundswell. :( --barneca (talk) 14:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Heh, hey! I still agree! :P So.... Early 08, it is! :) SQL^{Query me!} 14:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Clarification on deletion

I noticed that the page that I created has been deleted so I am writing you to get clarification as to what I can do to get the page back up. I think from reading the notes that it has something to do with the image that was on the page. Before I included the image I read the guidelines for copyright carefully and thought that I had done what was needed to verify that I have the rights to include the image. If I need to provide further proof please let me know what needs to be documented.

The page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_Technical_College

If there are any other issues related to this article please let me know.

Thank you

Daniel Vice Trident Technical College

Dvice (talk) 14:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Ahh, it's not about an image. A majority of the article was directly copied from http://www.tridenttech.edu/aboutttc.htm, see Wikipedia:Copyrights. Also (although, not really related to that article's deletion) you might want to review our Conflict of interest guidelines, as I see, you're with the college, that you've been editing the article about... SQL^{Query me!} 14:12, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Got it. So it looks as if I need to re-work the information about the college (which I tried to keep basic and factual not promotional) and disclose that it was edited by someone associated with the college.

I originally started editing the page to correct some errors and change some out-dated information not to create an "marketing piece", and I do not wish to turn it into one, but at the same time I do want some information to be available about the college.

Please advise.

Dvice (talk) 14:35, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey, sorry about the delay in replying, several things kept coming up, and keeping me away from the computer...

I'd say, go ahead and re-create the article, if you'd like. As you've noted, it must simply be Neutral in tone, Have Verifiable Reliable sources, assert Notability, and not simply be copied from a copyrighted source (such as the subject's website)... I know, that sounds like a lot, but, it's really not that bad :) If you need anything else, feel free to ask either here, or, at the Wikipedia:Help desk (or, wherever else seems appropriate!)... Best of luck, SQL^{Query me!} 05:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)