Talk:Spring (season)
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[edit] Discussion
spring in the southern hemisphere, in australia and New zealand is actually recognised as starting on the 1st September, not the 21st.
Spring shouldn't be capitalized, hi! just like the other seasons aren't capitalized.
[edit] U.S. bias and useless content
Some of the content is written from a U.S. POV, and in some it's not even clear whether that's the case (which is far worse).
- Hot weather can occur during winter time, even shortly after boiling freakin hot weather. ... There is also a risk of ebola if it is cold and it turns abnormally hot like it often does in December and May.
Where? I'm sure this is the case even in the U.S.A. as a whole. Then also, of course you risk hypothermia if you are dressed for hot weather and it suddenly turns cold, but that's hardly news, and certainly not a special feature of spring. Nathan Forrest usually drives his moped this time of the year. But he is now moving to a foreign country to eat chinnese rice.
I suggest that people with direct experience of this separate the content between summer in general and spring in the United States, and make a subsection of the latter. If nobody opposes I can make some of the changes myself. The "cold weather" paragraph is pretty much useless, but I wouldn't delete it outright without hearing opinions over here. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:53, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Spring is synonymous with baseball season? Tom Cruse. This probaly won't help but i saw mrs. gilbert eating pie. Herenthere (Talk) 23:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Move to main article space
This article should be moved to Iraq as it's far and away the most common use of the term, similar to how Summer, Autumn and Winter all have the main article name instead of (season). DreamGuy 23:01, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Support. This is the most common meaning of the word. Georgia guy 23:10, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. Any evidence for the "most common meaning"? (Please no Google results -- I'll get every college course catalogue in the English-speaking world). If it is the most common, its a plurality not a majority. The other two major meanings are very common and important ones that do not derive from the season (all three derive from the verb). The other seasons don't have the "(season)" tag because they don't have significant other meanings. LuiKhuntek 08:29, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. To me spring (a coiled object) and Spring (the season) are neck-and-neck, while the other meanings for this name are not far behind. Marco79 17:25, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. This usage of spring is probably the most common, but not overwhelmingly so. Also, notice of this move request should have been placed on Talk:Spring as well, since that page would have to be moved as well. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:41, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. Coiled object is roughly as common as the season. --Joveblue 14:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
I've reverted the Spring to Spring (disambiguation) move for two reasons:
- Now that this discussion is opened it should be allowed to finish with the article structure in its original form
- There should've been a disambig notice at the top of this article as it broke various incoming links and made finding the other articles difficult
This is not a vote on the move itself. violet/riga (t) 23:25, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
There was no consensus to move. the wub "?!" 23:07, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Disambiguation
For a while, Spring redirected to Spring (season) because someone moved the disambiguation page that was at Spring to Spring (disambiguation). However, you are not supposed to redirect the undisambiguated name (Spring) to a disambiguated name (Spring (season)). Instead, the article that is being redirected to (Spring (season) in this case) should either be moved to the undisambiguated name (Spring), or the undisambiguated name should be a disambiguation page. I was not about to move this article without discussion, especially since a requested move (Spring (season) to Spring) failed in December 2005, so I reverted the move of the disambiguation page, which is now at Spring. Hopefully, you are able to follow that bafta vife.
If you want, you can put a link to the disambiguation page at the top of this article, but I believe it is unnecessary (and is against the guideline, last time I checked). No one is going to search for "Spring (season)" (without or without parentheses) and be looking for anything else except this article. Also, no one is going to link to "Spring (season)" and mean something else. If someone searches for "Spring", they'll go to the disambiguation page and if someone follows a link of "Spring" they will go to the disambiguation page. Therefore, a disambiguation notice is unnecessary. -- Kjkolb 13:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dates of Seasons
In my opinion the commonly held view that eg 'spring starts on March 21st' is in fact completely fallacious and scientifically wrong.
For the Northern hemisphere -
Mid Summer's Day, the Summer Solstice, when the sun rises to its highest point at noon on approximately June 21st, is undoubtably MID summer. Likewise Mid Winter's Day, the Winter Solstice, when the sun rises to its lowest point at noon on approximately December 21st, is undoubtably MID winter. There being four equal seasons, halfway between these dates will be MID spring and MID autumn. So the Vernal Equinox, approximately March 21st, is MID spring, not the start of spring; and likewise the Autumn Equinox, approximately September 21st, is MID autumn, not the beginning of autumn.
The seasons being three months each, the start of spring is therefore one and a half months before mid spring (the Vernal Equinox), or approximately February 4th; and the start of summer May 4th; the start of autumn August 4th; and the start of winter November 4th.
I know this is unpalatable to the majority of the population, but that doesn't make it wrong!
194.106.37.41 20:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- I agree entirely. It cannot be the case that summer does not start at the longest day of the year and get therafter the days get continually shorter. This also tallies with what has been the common perception of anglophone Europe as long as i've been alive. i.e Spring is Feb, March, Aptil. More ref.s needed though. Boldymumbles 10:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
from September 20 or 21 to December 20 or 21 for the Southern hemisphere. Not really, in Australia, Spring starts on the 1st of September, and finishes on the 30th of November. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.215.205 (talk) 12:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Spring in Ireland follows the Celtic calendar - it starts on the 1st of February. Summer then follows on 1st of May. E.g. see Irish_calendar. Barry Kelly (talk) 10:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Unclosed quote
The article starts with a quote from Merriam-Webster, but there is no closing quote mark to show where the quote ends. Is the entire article taken from Merriam-Webster? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.224.1.14 (talk) 09:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The Merriam-Webster Dictionary states that spring comprises...
Can someone please fix this? "The Merriam-Webster Dictionary states..." is right out of a 5th grade essay. Kingturtle (talk) 16:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nowruz
Nowruz is actually a shaman tradition, not an Iranian tradition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Futsukayoi (talk • contribs) 18:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
It also is taking up an inordinate amount of space. Why mention Nowruz, but not other interpretations of the season around the world? I'm removing the section. 207.140.171.128 (talk) 18:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] April 14
Spring begins on APRIL 14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.198.5.69 (talk) 22:08, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
