Talk:Sporterising

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[edit] Just one question..

Good article, but where do commercial guns like the PS90 fit? This is more of a personal question, but I would think they would deserve some mention. JVkamp 21:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

That is a civilian model of the P90. I wouldn't consider it sporterized. LWF 22:54, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

LWF is right- "Civilian Variants" are NOT sporterised. Sporterised guns are generally WWI/WWII era rifles which have been modified for sporting use after manufacture, not simply as-manufactured civilian variants of military rifles. For example, the Springfield M1A rifle is a civilian version of the M-14 rifle, but it is not considered "Sporterised". Similarly, The AR-15 is the civilian verson of the M-16, and that isn't considered "Sporterised" either. --Commander Zulu 01:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I have heard it called both a sporter and a commercial variant. Thanks for clarifying this, as I was quite confused. As a hunter, I know my personal rifle inside and out, but only the basics of the nomenclature. JVkamp 03:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Modifying for compliance with legislation

Has anyone found any non-gun control sources that support the statement made in this section? The LCAV publication asserts that the "gun industry" refers to "sporterization" as "redesigning their assault weapons to skirt the ban." My quick googling indicates that the VPC publication Illinois: Land of Post-Ban Assault Weapons, was the first or one of the first to use the term in this manner, and most of the other anti-gun groups are simply quoting it.

Anyway, if we can't find any evidence (advertisements, articles, etc.) that the "gun industry" has used the term this way, then we should change the section to show that "Some gun control groups have applied this term to the gun industry's methods of complying with laws such as the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban..." --Hamitr (talk) 14:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)