Talk:Spirit (band)
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[edit] Woodstock
Spirit was one of my favorites in the late 60s. All that I've read seems to indicate that Ode Records felt that Woodstock would not be significant enough exposure and that a promotional tour for the "Clear" album would. Of course, only somewhat later did it sink in just how significant Woodstock was. I was 16 at the time and only remember just hearing about it. It did not seem a big thing to me, either. Only when the word started spreading afterwards and the movie was released in 1970 did people start to say, "Wow". --Phyllis1753 (talk) 16:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Stairway To Heaven
I have been told that the song "Stairway to Heaven" as performed and made famous by Led Zeppelin was in actual fact strongly plagiarised from one of the songs as written and performed by Spirit (please note the music and not the lyrics). Can anybody shed some light on this? Anybody with intimate knowledge on Spirit care to comment?
The song to which they're referring is entitled "Taurus". It was featured on Spirit's first, full-length album Spirit. As this album's publication preceded Led Zeppelin IV by a couple of years, there is no dispute over which ensemble first copyrighted a song on which the guitar riff common to both was featured. The two works are sufficiently dissimilar, however, to not warrant further controversy. The riffs in question, however, are nearly identical; and the contexts into which they fit are almost verbatim matches (both introducing the songs and running as themes throughout). Earthliberator 22:19, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Plus the fact that Led Zeppelin backed up Spirit for some time... I'm not sure, but I don't think Spirit has recieved any credit for that song, which has sold more than a million copies and which Spirit actually wrote the music for! I'll think I'll add something about this on the Stairway to Heaven article. –The Phoenix 16:17, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I played in SPIRIT for 3 tours and asked Randy about "Taurus". He said that "he and Jimmy Page spoke about it, Jimmy half-way apologized, and they shook hands",,,and "it was over", to quote Randy. Personally, I think they could at least give a co-writer credit to Randy. - [Dave Waterbury] . .
what else, i just feel so sad.....just another great musician left us. words are useless....remains the music. Thank you Mister Locke. signed: a Spirit admirator since ......pfff−
[edit] Tour Of '73
I met Spirit in 1973 when they toured in the UK and I'm sure the bassist was Larry Knight. Can anyone clarify his dates with the band?
BTW: At this time the band were carrying round an acetate of Potatoland which was supposedly for Epic release.
Delverie 11:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- You could try asking the Spirit group on Yahoo (http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/randycaliforniaandspirit/), I believe they have an accurate list. Fnorp 12:24, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Offensive and slanderous information.
Come on, dude. That's just stupid. It's gone. Jack Meihoffer 22:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "1984"
Though this record was self-produced, first pressings of Ode single #ZS7 128 (of which I have both a promo and stock copy in my collection) credited Lou Adler as producer. I am inquiring as to where this factoid would fit in to the story of this number. –Wbwn 11:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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tags to the article, after having spent some time sub-editing. Despite the information contained therein, and the time that has obviously gone into putting it all together, I am at a loss to know how this article has a Wikipedia 'B' rating. Frankly, a lot of it is meandering POV, fancruft, bollocks.
Derek R Bullamore 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Major editing suggested
This page has plenty of information, but could use serious help. That would involve a lot of editing. jj137 18:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] There is no way Stairway to Heaven is plagiarism
I understand that the chord progression in Taurus sounds quite similar to that in Stairway to Heaven, but let's look at this with some reason and also from a musical standpoint. Anyone with musical education will tell you that the introductory chord progression in Stairway to Heaven is a chromatic bass progression. The bass of each chord moves down a half-step each time. Additionally, the style of the guitar is arpeggiated finger-picking. This progression and style are very commonly used in folk and classical music. Considering these points, why would it even matter that the two songs are similar? Frankly, out of the sheer fact, not opinion--you can argue with me on that all day--that Stairway to Heaven is a better song (for several reasons) I would say for sure that even if it was entirely stolen from Spirit, it doesn't matter. It really does not matter at all. Plus, if it was plagiarized, doesn't anybody think that maybe, just maybe, any of the four members of Led Zeppelin at the time would have the dignity to admit that it was taken? There wasn't even a legal dispute: ever. So why would it be so hard to admit? I know why. It was not plagiarized.
[edit] Revamp
It's clear this page needs work. It's a shame that some comments are unattributed, so I can't contact for information. This is strange since Sinebot usually adds signatures, even for anon IP addresses. However, to make a musical judgement about the Taurus/Stairway controversy, I need to hear Taurus, and since the only Spirit album I actually possess is "Twelve Dreams", and I cannot see Taurus on iMesh or LimeWire, I'd be glad if someone could point me to a source. If you can rip & post to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1960s, FAO Ivan, or upload to Rapidshare.com and give URL here, that would help. My own POV is that Spirit are an important enough band to be treated with respect, and that is why I'm prepared to take some time to get things right & sort this article out. Thanks --Rodhullandemu 01:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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