Talk:Spirit (Leona Lewis album)

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[edit] A Moment like This

This says that all songs on the album are new, bar one. We know "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" is a cover version so perhaps "A Moment like This" won't be on the album after all. Only time will tell. — AnemoneProjectors (会話) 14:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Footprints in the Sand

Why did someone edit the credits to Footprints in the sand out?

The credits are true!

Do you have a source for them? — AnemoneProjectors (会話) 08:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, check this site:

Just search for Leona Lewis under performers here: There are also the credits for Take a bow.

http://www.ascap.com/ace/search.cfm?mode=search

Thank you so much for that, I have added the extra information. — AnemoneProjectors (会話) 14:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Covers

Why on earth did you edit the information about the Avril cover and Darin cover out? It is true! I heard the snippets and can 100 % say that. Accept these songs are covers. Coast2coast2 17:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Because it was unsourced original research. anemone|projectors 18:47, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
However, even though the sources don't say who wrote the songs, I'll trust you and leave the information in. anemone|projectors 19:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You can really trust me on that. I listened to the snippets and I know the original songs. So I can say for 100% it are the same songs.

The problem is I can't give you a source because the snippets aren't official yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coast2coast2 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Emphasis on critical reviews

Why is there an emphasis on the critical reviews of her album, surely this is biased??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.203.175.146 (talk) 21:36, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean the tracks section, or the critical reception section, or both? The critical reception is meant to be about the reviews, and is pretty balanced. The tracks section could do with improvement. anemone|projectors 22:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you, this section is not balanced, with negative reviews given immediate emphasis and more space than is reasonable. The album garnered 'generally favorable reviews' according to MetaCritic, a primary source for calculating music reviews. Therefore the emphasis should be the other way around, with deeply negative remarks kept to a minimum. I'll try to fix this by adding a generally favourable review and removing a couple of negative ones. ~ smb 23:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Album Sales

Leona's official website states her album has gone triple platinum http://www.leonalewismusic.co.uk/index.php/news/album_and_single_success/yet wikipedia says 2xplatinum , surely it should say 3xplatinum? and platinum is 300,000 so it should be sales of 900,000 copies, correct me if i'm wrong but surely information on this website is incorrect.

http://www.bpi.co.uk/ only lists an award for "A Moment like This" when searcing for "lewis leona". We should wait until that site is updated really. anemone│projectors 17:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


why do you keep changing the certification to 3x platinum? seriously, if it says 1,600,000 sales that should be 5x, not 3x which is 900,000 so looking at the sales of eachweek it is WAY over that. even if there is no source surely you should just say 900,000 then, I hate wikipedia everyone changes it to silly lies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.123.124 (talk) 10:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no source to say it has been certified 5x platinum. It has to be awarded by the BPI, and when it has, they will list it on their website. A record isn't automatically awarded a certification because it has sold so many copies. Only "A Moment like This" is listed as having received a certification, which leads me to believe that Leona's official website assumed that sales=certifications. It does not. That is original research and will always be removed until something is listed on bpi.co.uk. We have a source for the number of sales so we're not going to say it's only sold 900,000 copies, but we can't say it's 5x platinum until it is officially AWARDED by the BPI. anemone│projectors 14:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)ut


ok but why dont we certify it before they do, it only takes some common sence not a specific award, platinum sales is 300,000 and we know for a fact it has sold 1,600,000 plus so there we are.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.123.124 (talk)

Because all information on Wikipedia must be verified by a reliable source. The only source we have says 3x platinum (although it is a primary source and probably not a reliable one). anemone│projectors 23:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] USA release

Is it gonna have a different US release title? http://www.metacritic.com/music/upcomingreleases.shtml [see the 18th of March entry]

I suggest that it's a mistake, because Spirit is listed on that day but as an album by DeVotchKa. anemone│projectors 02:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

"Whatever It Takes" has a new mix on the US album. Why isn't this acknowledged on the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.54.73 (talk) 17:18, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article is too long

This page is ridiculously long for an article about an album. Sections like the CD catalogue numbers and personnel are completely unnecessary. Riksweeney (talk) 14:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the Personnel section. ~ smb 17:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Why remove the personnel section. Why remove any sections at. Why not cut section to just infomation thats is needed (Sexty2 (talk) 21:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC))

I have just restored the tag. This article is longer than Let It Be and Revolver combined. And neither one of those is anything close to a stub. This article needs to be seriously trimmed down. Some of it can be moved to the artist's page, most of it should simply go away. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sales

(I'm moving this discussion from my talk page for clarity sake - Mdsummermsw)

There are citations for the certifications e.g. Gold in Germany which is over 100,000 sales. That's why the sales were there so I don't see why you've removed them. Adi39 (talk) 14:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

In some cases, it's a bit if-y keeping the cite for the certification as many (Australia, Austria, Canada, Germany, Italy, US) are cited to to her promotional site. Others are just bad sources (Japan's source is a site seemingly violating China Dailys copyright; United World is sourced to aCharts, a spinoff of a blog). Some are wrong (Swiss Platin is only 20,000 since 2007; not 30,000). Some (Poland, European) are simply uncited. In any case, there is no clear cite for the sales figure.
In general, this article is way out of hand. In addition to the length concerns already noted, there are 27 national charts listed. WP:CHARTS says it should be no more than ten.
Mdsummermsw (talk) 14:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)