Talk:Spiral Tribe
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[edit] member
I was a member... if anybody would like to know what it was like back in the day drop me an e-mailat stevespiral@yahoo.co.uk and i will try and remember. but be warned it is all a bit hazy :)
[edit] what's here now and what is needed
OK I've cleaned this up quite a lot. I'm not sure if it still warrants the "clean up" notice at the top, or if further work is needed - so any hints welcome.
I'd like to see:
- More information on the parties, what happened, venues, dates etc
- More information on the clampdown and trial post Castlemorton and how this tied into the CJB.
There is probably scope for some material on the underlying philosophy, etc - i.e. all the "23" stuff.
The discography probably needs redoing but I am less interested in that.
Can anyone confirm the stuff about drugs? Quite interesting but is it correct?
John Eden 10:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] the drug reference is totally innacurate
noone anywhere ever made real drugs with a "recipe" from the Anarchists Cookbook. I'm sure there were plenty of drugs at early spiral parties, as with any party during that era, but they probably came from the usual sources.
Also, the spirals never went to south america or asia. unless u mean individual people who were affiliated with spiral tribe. but the actual sound system only travelled to europe and north america.
[edit] reason for including a list of parties
It seems to me that one of the main things which is notable about Spiral Tribe was their audacious use of private and public space to hold illegal or semi-legal events. Although not explicity political with a big "P" their tactics were similar in many ways to groups like Reclaim the Streets.
The locations of the parties are therefore an essential part of their history. I have therefore re-included them and indeed would like to see this aspect of the article expanded.
[edit] cleaned up some more
i cleaned up some spelling, formatting. i removed the rumour about travelling, altho it is true that sound conspiracy (total resistance and okupe) travelled overland to india. they did indeed go to north america. for the discography, i think discogs does it better ... fac 'em if they cant tek a joke is a record (i have it) by facom sisdem , a spiral offshoot and thus not really a spiral rec, but it was made by a spiral member and i donthave time to go through all the records. i agree that more info is needed on parties, but i was too young!! Mujinga 13:43, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] firstahand info from 218.186.9.6
i moved this from the article page as it is not verifiable but it is certainly interesting.
- regarding the big life deal:
i have not edited the prevous text but I remember the meeting with Big life records,as I was there.We sat in a meeting in an office off of oxford street, where we were asked for a record deal, these are the facts as I remember them.We stated that we were not prepared to sign anything unless we had the full rights to produce our own music, they were prepared to give give us more money if we gave them rights up but we would not. I should say at this point "we" means Mark, he was spiral tribe the rest just followed his lead. ok so he told them we have the rights or we don't sign.When they agreed to give us the rights for a lesser sum we agreed to a deal that would allow them the marketing rights to our music using our name.The deal was for a total of 20 tracks, 2 EP's and one album. 40,000 pounds was the agreed amount and after the contract had been signed and the cheque handed over mark produced a DAT tape from his pocket which contained about 100 tracks which we had been working on over the last few months and said "take the 20 you want and give us back the rest". thats how it went.We used most of the money to build a mobile studio in the back of a twin steer bus which was then driven to europe, and the rest as they say is history.
- regarding the quotation 'You might stop the party but you can't stop the future' (from Forward the Revolution):
Again I have not edited the text that has already been writen but as I remember it that quote was first said by joe to a policeman when a party was being stoped somewhere near golders green in october 91.
Mujinga 19:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] table for parties
i am making a table for the english parties ... right now it is here. please add any dates if you have them. Mujinga 22:40, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Well done
I fully expected that this article would be two short paragraphs (e.g. S'Express), or a lengthy mess of drivel (Altern-8). But it isn't either of these things, it's well-written, with references, and a handy table of dates. And it has commentary from one of the real-life actual people behind the mask. Carry on. -Ashley Pomeroy 00:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Formation of group
I took the following text out of the introduction - I think it is really interesting but it is not referenced:
The name Spiral Tribe was thought up by Debbie when she and Mark produced the artwork and flyers for The Schoolhouse party (1990)actually put on by Stikka and the Synergy sound crew. Spiral Tribe also did some small squat parties around North London and a couple in South London before the Sisbury Ring party inspired them to take the sound system on the road. The rest is history. There were never 23 members that is a myth. There were originaly around only 8-10 of us.The 23 member myth comes from being given 23 T-shirts at The Roundhouse in 1991. They were handed out to those who had helped out and were considered to be a part of Spiral Tribe then. We had gone through a few mutations by then! Of those I remember from the first days were: Mark and Debbie, Simone, Zander, Camden, Hubert, Kirsty, Roger. Others came and got involved and became a part of what we were doing. But Debbie and Mark provided the original inspiration and vision. To be a part of Spiral Tribe it was only necessary to put your energy into the success of what we were doing. Mujinga (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
