Talk:Spion Kop (stadia)

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[edit] The First Kop

What's the evidence for this claim? Ste B 03:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Biggest End

the article asserts that the holte end was bigger than the south bank at molyneux. Ive stood on both and the south bank was surely significantly larger - it went back 280 steps (i counted) across most of its width and was much wider than the pitch. the holte end went back 200 steps ( as far as i remember, i also counted it) and though wider than the pitch was not as wide as the south bank, nor did it have a corner section whereas the south bank did. I am prepared to be corrected that i misremember the depth of the holte end, but i'm sure of the depth of the south bank.

unless someone can correct me i wil edit this article to state that the south bank was the biggest end in the land.

I asset that the south bank coult hold nearly 50,000 in the days before the regulators - the rest of the ground really was a titchy little dump.

oh yeah and i'm a west brom fan, so i have no remit for either wolves or villa - but i was quite a bit spoddy about the sizes of the various terraces of england. i stood on most of them and usually counted the steps. a mention of the kippax might also be in order —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.140.68 (talk • contribs) 19:37, 26 August 2006

[edit] 'official name'

I have to take issue with the implication that it was a 'liverpool regiment' that suffered heavy losses at the battle of Spion Kop in the Boer War. Closest to this description is likiely to be The South Lancashitrs; however there were many other regiments from all over the UK and the Empire involved, several of whom suffered significant losses - http://www.britishbattles.com/great-boer-war/spion-kop.htm. The fallout from this battle seriously impacted on the public in the UK, it is almost certain that several Football Clubs, large and small and in a 'patriotic spirit' memorialized the encounter my so naming any mound like enclosure (remember many would not be 'stands' as we know them now, but more like 'The Hill' and 'The Mound' at Sydney and Adelade Cricket Grounds, i.e. Grass covered inclines).

can I also take issue with the assertion that the Anfield Kop is the only 'Official'y named stand.

I can only speak for Bramall Lane in Sheffield but it currently has the 'official' name 'Hallam FM Kop Stand' - http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Prices/0,,10418,00.html

And, to my knowledge, has been officially the Shoreham Kop, since I started going to Bramall Lane in 1969, and unofficially, i.e. amongst supporters both 't'Shoreham' t'Kop' and 'Spion Kop'.

I'm pretty sure other grounds have stands with an 'official' Kop name.

SubtleBlade 23:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC) SubtleBlade

The banks and terracing at Woolwich Arsenal's Manor Ground were never officially given names. According to noted author Simon Inglis (Football Grounds of Britain, The Football Grounds of England and Wales, Engineering Archie - Archibald Leitch, Football Ground Designer), the earliest reference comes in the year 1904 when a local newspaper likened the refurbished Manor Ground terrace to that of Spion Kop. This reference predates the printed work of Birmingham journalist Ernest Edwards, who in 1906 nicknamed the refurbished Anfield terrace Spion Kop. And so it seems the earliest reference to a football terrace as Spion Kop can indeed be attributed to Woolwich Arsenal, where it was likened. However it should also be noted that this name was never formally adopted, unlike at Anfield, where later it was. smb 14:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] spion kop

This is also the name of a one street hamlet on the outskirts of Mansfield. Having spent many matches in the Kop at Hillsborough in the days when Wednesday were a force to be reckoned with I always feel a surge of nostalgia when driving through there.

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