Talk:Spieprzaj dziadu!

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[edit] Interesting

As a non-Pole, however, I was left confused. Is the phrase primarily used by supporters of Kaczyinski (in the manner, perhaps, of Ronald Reagan's "There you go again", which encapsulated a derisive dismissal of liberal objections to whatever was at stake)? Or is it a broader admiration of a particular attitude, and is it now divorced from politics? Are there holdouts who continue to think it's rude (more than Tusk's somewhat perfunctory rejection)? --Dhartung | Talk 05:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Generally it is remembered as an example of how crude Lech Kaczynski can be: his grammar is frequently mocked (he says 'dlatego bo' instead of 'dlatego, ze' to mean 'because' - the equivalent of the teenager-ish "'cos"), his pronunciation is unclear, and this quote is used to show how rude he was to a heckler. There is little admiration:) It then took on a life of its own to become, at times, just an independent funny phrase. Malick78 (talk) 07:52, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
    • So it's closer to a Bushism, then, like when people say internets? Anyway, something of that angle would help clarify it. --Dhartung | Talk 08:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Generally, yes. Only with rudeness substituted for silliness typical for President Bush. From public relations point of view it was a disaster. 81.219.106.251 (talk) 09:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Translation

Isn't it closer to 'Fuck Off' than 'Piss Off'? Perhaps the literal translation ('Pepper Off') ought to be included? --Major Bonkers (talk) 08:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Though rude, it can be said before 9 o'clock on TV so I'd go with 'piss off'. Giving the literal translation of 'pepper' would be interesting too I think. Malick78 (talk) 12:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Again, 'old man' isn't a particular good translation: 'you old beggar' might be more exact, or, in an English idiom, 'you old fart'.--Major Bonkers (talk) 11:03, 18 March 2008 (UTC)