Talk:Spide

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I have taken out "primarily" again. The term is not used outside NI. I also reinstated the last paragraph, as it contains some relevent information and reads better than a list. And please don't call me a spide. But you're probably a culchie and don't understand such things. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 07:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Don't be silly - you can't claim a slang term is used "exclusively" anywhere - with modern communications and thousands of NornIrish people attending universities and working in other parts of the UK and abroad, the word spide can be said all over the place. The most you can say is where it is primarily/commonly used. Why, I said it here in Brighton not five minutes ago. And a list of regional equivalents is better than a waffly paragraph which duplicates other poorly written info from above. The thing to do would be to add in further stuff above if necessary.--feline1 09:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Wind your neck in! A few ex-pats saying the word in England or abroad doesn't mean it is in common usage there.

I also reverted a few grammatical and formatting errors. Lumpenproletariat should be lower case for example. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 09:46, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

My edit does not make the article claim that the slang term is "common" in England or abroad. It just correctly explains that the term is primarily used in Northern Ireland. It does not make sense to say that any word is "exclusively" used anywhere.--feline1 09:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes from 5 June 06

I support that revert by Stumason. The changes were ahine. --feline1 09:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origins

The story I've always heard is that spides are known as spides, because it was popular in spide culture for a time to have a spider web tatoo on the elbow, although I'm not sure if that was for prison/paramilitary/racist reasons. Although I don't have any reference for this, so I'm not sure if other contributors think it should be included or not, a google search doesn't seem to support this opinion however. Pauric 17:53, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I always thought it was because they went around in hoodies, which looked a bit like a Spiderman outfit —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.141.98.221 (talk) 11:12, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Louts and hoods

I'm not sure these words are synonymous with spide. Hoods maybe, as in UTH or "up the hoods". The major difference here is that hood is a word some people would call themselves. No one would call themselves a spide, the term is entirely derogatory. As for lout, that's just a general term for loutish behaviour used extensively outside NI. Stu ^{’Bout ye!} 09:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I suppose you're correct there, I was rather hasty in my revert. My thinking was you weren't familiar with people calling spides louts or hoods as the slang is somewhat different in Belfast, but yeah it's not synonymous. -- Pauric (talk-contributions) 18:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

In Ballymena Spides are called Spides, Shem is not used much in an adjectival sense. The pronounciation varies but the one that was here was just wrong. Ballymena slang should have a page on its own.