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Are "Max 300" and "Paranoia Survivor Max" from Dance Dance Revolution speedcore? --Damian Yerrick 22:54, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I'd say no. Most, if not all, speedcore tracks would offend or annoy most listeners due to harsh elements in the track. Hence why I mentioned it has similarities to noise music. If a speedcore track of my choosing were to be played on DDR then there would be noone watching. :)
- To be honest I don't know the tracks you speak of personally, but I imagine it would be more closely related to Hi-NRG or something a bit broader. Airconditioning 02:41, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)
- While game music doesn't usually deserve proper classification, and sometimes is very hard to classify due to the fact that artists don't conform to the same bounds that most conventional artists do, while Konami refers to MAX300 as Techno, and Paranoia Survivor MAX as rave (I think), the former would probably be best described as (rather offensive) sped-up tribal techno and the latter would probably fit under sped-up (more than double speed) hard trance with elements of drum & bass thrown in for effect. Both tracks lack a conventional beat (never mind the fact that MAX300 is actually 150 BPM) and thus cannot conform properly to normal specifications.
[edit] BPM rated too high
Starting the range at 300 BPM leaves out a huge community of musicians in Japan (and supposedly parts of Europe, but I can't vouch) that call themselves Speedcore (and rightfully so). There's a reason it's called 'speedcore' and not 'really fast music'; it could be said that it's part of the same 'musical species' as hardcore, breakcore, etc. That being said a better definition of speedcore would be fast hardcore, or fast gabber, but this is generalizing. Basically I believe the lower bracket starts at about 180/190 BPM, but that really would be 'fast hardcore' so 200 is reasonable. Speedcore is largely shunned as being 'non-musical' but there's loads of musical speedcore in Japan and it rarely approaches 300 BPM, but nobody would call it anything but speedcore, or at least 'super gabber'. The unique style is unmistakeable; massive overuse of samples and stabs, it's definitely not hardcore. It may be a bit 'goofier' than European speedcore but I feel it deserves a mention. See DJ Sharpnel/Speedfreak. freshgavin 2005 07 15 Yep, and just to add to that; 300 bpm is how fast the stepchart/arrows goes not the actual music.
[edit] Artists external links
I've culled the list down to two, where those two artists actually have articles. Before it was nothing but a linkfarm of non-notable artists. If they're notable, they should have articles, and not be simple self-promotional links. Perhaps the same could be applied to the record labels, unless a few without articles really are notable, but I won't do it because I don't know about it. --Dane ~nya 13:41, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Going to do the same. If they don't have articles, they can't really claim notability can they? Blackmetalbaz (talk) 14:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Remove Links
Links to extratone and splittercore (more subgenres of subgenres....great) redirect. The article itself makes no mention of these freak genres. Let us remove them entirely. -Gates —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.61.151 (talk) 00:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
