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[edit] Other connotations?

"Special police" also meaning riot police...?  Also, "special police" as a euphemism (official or popular) for types of secret police or other internal repression?  David Kernow 17:51, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Seems Special Police can mean whatever you want it to mean, as long as you're not talking about regular coppers or bobbies. The North Carolina entry seems to be talking about company police. I got here by looking for "special constable" but there's only this and Special Constabulary, neither of which seem to be useful for including specials that were used as strikebreakers pre-WWII in Canada and throughout the British Empire. I suppose this isn't a problem for Americans, because strikebreaking police were private, i.e., company police, but there's no article for that either. Kind of ahistorical. That's the trouble with always being the junior partner in the Empire. Oh well..Bobanny 07:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Security Guard - Observe and Report

The statement "security guards have no arrest powers as their job is mainly to observe and report" is not factual, as non-company police security personnel have citizen arrest powers and may be employed to intervene or perform protective services. i.e. paid to do something. I'll edit this when I can figure out how to say it. Pyrogen 21:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge from Special police force

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The result was merge from Special police force into Special police. -- akuyumeTC 00:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Both articles are fairly small. I don't see the reason to have two separate pages describing the same thing with different words. akuyumeTC 02:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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I am a Maryland Special Police Officer (SPO), and No, we can not just Fire at individuals that are endangering the public. I think what they were trying to convey is: Yes, we have the authority just like any other Police officer in the State of Maryland to make all arrest on the property we patrol. If for instance ABC Rentals owns 26 properties, and you are a SPO for them your jurisdiction covers all 26 properties that ABC owns. It also covers properies ABC has assumed responsibility to protect. Yes, we can operate blue lights, as long as the vehicle is use at the properties we protect, and not on state, county roads, or other private propety not in our jurisdiction. The use of blue lights to make traffic stops must require md. basic police training and be approved by the State Police prior. We are authorized to use deadly force outside our jurisdiction just like all other law enforcement officers, to protect the citizens in the State of Maryland. Rest easy, most but not all Maryland SPO's are either current Law Enforcement Officers, that moonlight from nieghboring states that have to have a Md. State Commission so that they may make arrest, and handgun permit to use deadly force while employed as such, or retired law enforcement officers, so most do know what they are doing. I myself a retired firefighter/ fire marshal. (kevinxfire) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinxfire (talk • contribs) 15:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)





[edit] Maryland SPOs

I'll need to ask someone who's a Maryland SPO, but this sentience, "Special police can make a criminal arrest, run blue strobe lights on their vehicle and can fire at individuals that are endangering the public," sounds silly to me. "[F]ire at individuals that are endangering the public" sounds is the most silly part. If someone poses a lethal threat, then anyone (not just a police officer, regular or irregular) may use lethal force to protect themselves or others in all 50 states from the lethal threat.

If they're referring to a threat that is less than lethal, then why can't Maryland regular police perform what amounts to extra judicial summary executions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyrogen (talk • contribs) Pyrogen 06:59, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Special constable

This article covers pretty much the same topic as Special constable, so I think that we should merge the two together. My preference would be under this title, since 'constabulary' seems to be mostly a British term whereas everyone knows what police are. Also, Special Constabulary should be renamed to reflect that it deals specifically with the British Special Constabulary. --Helenalex (talk) 11:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Bad idea my friend, this article is about "Special" police as in their duties, if it involves that of a Special Police Officers job this is a wrong contention they mean two different things so please do not push for a merge. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 14:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

This page does a terrible job explaining the difference between special police and special constables. Having fully read both of them, I think a better option might be rewriting this page so that instead of grouping special police by country, it groups them by type. I gather there are lots of different kinds of special police, including auxilary type police (special constables); ordinary police with special duties (riot police, railway police etc); police employed by non-police organisations (military and company police for example); and probably others. I think this would make it much easier for people to get a sense of what special police do and how they can differ from special constables. However this is not an area I know huge amount about, so if this sounds like a terrible idea, please explain why. --Helenalex (talk) 05:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Well you see Special Constabulary etc means a part time police officer, where special police denotes police force/agency/unit that is different to normal police duties, I agree it needs help this article but I really dont think they should be merged to be honest. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 16:55, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Nor do I, any more. But I would argue that special constabulary are a form of special police, along with riot police, military police etc. You seem to be arguing that the only real special police are normal police officers with special duties, whereas I would argue that the term is broader than this (in general usage anyway) and the article should reflect this. --Helenalex (talk) 01:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)