Talk:Spaghetti Western

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Can the second image be moved so the layout isn't so confused around the contents?

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This line is confusing? What does it mean?

800 balas (2002) is set among former actors and stuntmen in Almería.

Is Almería a real place? Also, if it is a movie about stuntmen, it arguably cannot take place in the Old West, ergo not a Western? 81.232.72.53 12:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Almería is in Spain. 800 Balas has an article. --jh51681 19:02, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Themes 2 Language 3 Not Sure About This 4 List of Films 5 Possible Content 6 "why"s

[edit] Themes

I'm not all into the literary criticism stuff, but doesn't this page deserve an analysis of themes common to the genre? Help me out here, folks, I'm not an avid fan, just a dilettante. -altjira 07:27, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Language

are these filmed in italian or english? thanks, 71.127.147.156 08:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Neither. The actors and actresses often spoke their own languages (be it Italian, English, German, Spanish etc.) during filming, as no sound was recorded. Dubbed Italian and English audiotracks were created later. Prolog 20:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not Sure About This

There's a second season Backyardigans epsiode that is a takeoff of the genere

LadySatine 21:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I think these are pretty common, so they don't really need to be mentioned in the article. Prolog 05:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Films

I propose we delete the list of films on this page, as there is a link to the main page right above it? Goldencrisp87 02:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

All the notable films should be mentioned in the text above the section, but until that happens, keeping a short list of films makes sense to me. Prolog 07:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Content

I was reading about the actor Gordon Scott, who recently died and the article mentioned that he had been in some spaghetti westerns. I looked it up on IMDB and there are at least two movies that appear to fit. One of them, Buffalo Bill, directed by Mario Costa (under a pseudonym), doesn't appear to be listed on the listed anywhere. Dfmclean 14:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "why"s

I'd really love to know where the whole genre of spaghetti westerns came from; why were Italian directors, and Italian directors in particular, making so many movies set in the Old West, why did they stop, and what replaced them? I hope somebody with more knowledge of the subject than I have can add such information to the article. Luvcraft 02:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

There were laws banning the depiction of violence in Italian films set in Italy, due to the intense violence persistent in Italy from the end of WW2 to the 1980s (see: Years of Lead (Italy). Some parts of Italy were compared to the wild west, which may have led to increased interest. Many italo-westerns were seen as allegories of contemporary Italy. --NEMT 21:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, and one other reason was, that in Germay the so called Karl May movies, playing in the west and being co-produced by Jugoslavian companies, were an enormous success in Europe (and especially their music by Martin Böttcher beginning in 1962 with The Treasure of Silver Lake) and the Italian producers/directors just saw a new field of profit and invented something of their own. Italo-Western-star Terence Hill began his career in German Karl-May-movies. --Wittkowsky (talk) 10:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

According to a documentary I saw, in the 1960s the big productions of Cinecittà were not sustainable. As Wittkowsky says, the Germans had been doing European Westerns. By that time, Germans already had TVs, but Italians could not afford them, so there was a demand for movies. --Error (talk) 01:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Specifically, it was southern Italy which was slow to get television and thus had a tremendous demand for movies into the 70s. Mikel Koven in La Dolce Morte talks in some depth about this phenomenon and how it nurtured several genres of movies, among them the spaghetti western. Quite a fascinating look at the class issues inherent between the north and the south at that time and how it affected the arts being created for each one. Monkey Bounce (talk) 05:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)