Talk:Space science

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[edit] Science fiction

Wikieditors please feel free to discuss this article with Michael Hooten; mlhooten@gmail.com.

Reverted the edit by User:Uncle G - removed perfectly good references However this page is a mess and need a great deal of tidying up Jaster 16:39, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Please learn how to edit, rather than simply how to revert. If you wanted the references, those alone are what you should have re-added, not the entire morass of science fiction that was in the rest of the article. Uncle G 16:52, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Sorry Now Iv'e had time to actually read the morass of text on this page I can see it's just (very badly) reinterating what is on the barely/badly linked pages and is not adding anything new, or where it is it is new reasearch or opinion, I've mostly put back what you had, The references were perfectly good but refered to stuff which should have been on other pages ...Jaster 17:21, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
    • I've just discovered, from repairing the interwiki links, that the references, like the interwiki links, were copied and pasted wholesale from extraterrestrial life. Uncle G 17:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • The only thing that needs improving now is the preamble (what is space science...) the current is much better that the old one but could do with being less "it's science about space" ...Jaster 17:35, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
  • is that better ? Jaster 17:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
    • I think that it was probably better to have the internal links. Uncle G 09:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

The two remaining references seem to be both to do with Space exploration and not specifically Space Science ? Is there a reason they are here ? Jaster 17:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposals

Propose addition of 3 major categories, equal in heirarchy with exobiology, astronomy etc: SOLAR SCIENCE (concerning the sciences related to Stars), GALACTIC SCIENCE (concerning the sciences related to galaxies), SPACE DEFENSE Mlhooten. Oct 24, 2006.

Propose changing name of Planetary Science to Non-Earth Planetary Science. Mlhooten. Oct 24, 2006.

Solar Science - no, Solar = Sun = Sol = Our star not every star
This would be Stellar Science but that is a stub due to the material being covered by Astronomy and it's sub articles, So the Astronomy Section covers this ....
GALACTIC SCIENCE - Galactic astronomy and Extragalactic astronomy cover this They could be added as sub-categories of Astronomy/Cosmology
Space Defence ~= Strategic Defense Initiative and not really a major topic of space science ?
Maybe we should have a more general topic of Militarisation of space ?? Jaster 11:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Proposal of addition of SPACE SCIENCE'S HISTORY

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Stellar Science vs Solar Science. Agreed. Stellar Science is the overall term.

But which part of Astronomy are you proposing Stellar Science is a part of? Stellar science is the study of 1000000000000000000 Stars. (yes that is really true, proven by deep field survey). Seems to me that Stellar Science is larger than Astronomical Science. In 10 years Wikipedia might have 10,000 entries for 10,000 different named solar systems ("put your name on a star"). Why don't we put the master sublinks to those 10,000 entries in something besides the article talking about "telescopes"? Mlhooten. Oct 25, 2006.

Did you read what I wrote in cabal about Library of Congress Classification "Descriptive Astronomy"? We should put general descriptions of particular stars in NEITHER Astronomy NOR Stellar Science! General descriptions of stars should go into "Geography of the Universe" or similar. Would you go to an astrophysicist to give you a general description of the mountains on the moon? Would you go to a Planetary Scientist? No, you would go to a GEOGRAPHER. Mlhooten. Oct 25, 2006.

Stellar = of the stars, Astro- = of stars, Geo- = of earth, If I wanted a description of the mountains of the moon I would talk to a Selenographer or Planetary Scientist
the preamble to the Astronomy article does not even mention telescopes? It says it "the science of celestial objects (e.g., stars, planets, comets, and galaxies)" So Astronomy covers everything and Stellar Science covers just the stars? Cosmology is the study of the Universe in its totality, but Geography is "the study of the Earth's features and of the distribution of life on the earth"
So the levels are
  • Astronomy
    • Cosmology
    • Astrophysics
    • Stellar Science
    • Planetary Science
      • Geography
      • Selenology
Probably it would be a good idea to look at Portal:Astronomy in particular it's Projects section ... Jaster 08:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page destroyed and redone

Dear Jaster, I have done a whole lot of work to clean this up to many of your standards. Do appreciate that you are on top of my mistakes. Would much appreciate it if you would just delete or change or correct or reduce or reword or refont any and all portions of this version that you wish, rather than just revert. Most sincerely yours, Michael Hooten. Oct 28, 2006.


  • I've started to clean it up .... watch this page and I will as I get time restructure it Jaster 16:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)