Talk:Space marine

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I would point out we have an entry for Colonial Marines. Is this the same thing? [[PaulinSaudi 16:22, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)]]

Colonial Marines is the name for the space marines in the Aliens movie. Space marines is the more general term for space soldiers. The articles could possibly be merged. Fredrik 16:32, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
If you merge those you must consider that they are the equilivant of the Warhammer 40k chapters. There are quite a lot of those and then you might add short descriptions too... The page would get cluttered.


I'm not sure why my clarifications were undone. I feel it is an important clearification because there is a difference between soldiers who simply fight in space, and soldiers who specificaly atack surface instalations from orbit. Does anyone see a good reason not to make this clear? CB Droege 23:34, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well, with lack of a good reason to the contrary, I'm going to assume that the removal of my clarification was without good reason. I'm reinserting it. CB Droege 19:28, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)


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[edit] Origins

Space marines were popularized by Robert A. Heinlein's novel Starship Troopers. Starship Troopers appeared for the first time in '59. Did the concepet even exict before that? Where? For that matter, did the concept of 'hive-aliens' exist before that (though there were ants and bees long before that, of course)? --Dyss 14:10, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I added copyright info to protect and inform any budding sci-fi writers out there. Information can be found at http://uk.games-workshop.com/Legal/legal.htm

I did a little revisioning. I removed that sentence that flat-out stated that "gamers regard Space Marines as lame or borring". I'm sure not EVERY Warhammer 40,000 believes that, so I just noted that they are controversial and that some players do indeed feel that way. I also felt that the list of weapons that Space Marines carry was too specific and beyond the scope of the article, so I just shorted it and indicated that instead of plasma cannons, guns, and pistols, the Space Marines carry generic plasma weapons, melta weapons, and so on.

On second thought, I removed the entire thing about 40k gamers' opinions of Space Marines. This is an article for space marines in general, not Space Marines (of the 40k universe) specificaly, so that is beyond the scope of the article I think.


I tried to consolidate some of the redundancies and clean up the language. miketer 19:10 17 September 2005


[edit] Cleanup

Hi,

I've done some work on the list:

  • I've ordered it by the works' publication dates.
  • I've removed links about the nations or organizations that employ space marines in that work (but retained links to articles about the marines themselves).
  • I've removed Doom, Stargate, and Star Trek. I'm not entirely sure about whether the Doom series includes actual space marines (as opposed to soldiers stationed on other planets) or not, but I'm confident that the Star Gate teams aren't marines (they are neither stationed on a space ship, nor do they assault anything from space), and Star Trek doesn't prominently feature dedicated marines either (in fact, the Federation doesn't seem to have any soldiers at all).

I'm probably going to have a look at the rest of the article tomorrow.

FJG 16:14, 29 September 2005 (UTC)


On the subject of Doom. Well it's pretty clear to me that they're called and referred to as Marines several times in the games, novels, and now movie. And they're stationed in space so yeah I'd say they're a pretty good example of Space Marines.

[edit] Doom Marines are in fact Force Recon

Even in the movie, Marines are reffered as "special forces". The only group of Marines that qualify as SOF are the United States Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance (Force Recon)--James Bond 04:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Then what about the orginal Doom game? --Eldarone 12:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Isn't Space Marine a commonly known W40k thing? why dont the disambiguation (this page), begin with something like

"Space Marine is a soldier who fights in space, and usually refers to the Space Marine in Warhammer 40,000

NeoExelor—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.186.172 (talk • contribs)

Wwhat is the fantasy space marines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.31.96 (talk) 07:40, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Power Armor

Isn't powered armor required for "space marinedom" or is anything in the future with a gun a "space marine"? I see storm troopers and such as regular soldiers and should not have the marine status.--141.157.117.189 20:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

No, Powered Armor is not necessary for Space Marines, although the more popluar Adeptus Astares of Warhammer 40,000 do wear power armor. But this article does probably need clarificiation on what a Space Marine is. I can guess that the Space Marines listed at least operate in space or extraterristal colonies and are supported by a space navy. I suggest one refers to the article on real Marines and use that diffintion to determine what a Space Marine is. --Eldarone 02:58, 13 July 2006 (UTC)