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[edit] Mark Greer - reply

I haven't found any yet, nor have I looked (still in the process of gathering good information) but I'm sure there's plenty of info at all the colleges he taught and attended. If you really think it should be deleted, could I put this info in a different format on the mattawan high school page? Shadowblade (talk) 20:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Good call, I'll do that, and you can put the deletion tag back if you like. Thanks for your help and understanding. Shadowblade (talk) 21:10, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Erin Burnett page

I wanted to thank you for the effort put forth on the EB page. If you ever need my help with a page you've worked, please feel free to send me an email.

In regards to Erin Burnett's birthday, she stated on the Morning Joe Show that she would prefer it not be made public. She also stated on TV that her birthday is not May 3, which I had orignally added to the page. I had no trouble finding that her birthday is in July using ancestory.com; but I chose not to reference this per the subject's request. - ICarriere 01:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don't remove speedies

Please do not remove speedy deletion tags from articles. If you do not believe the article deserves to be deleted, then please do the following:

  1. Place {{hangon}} on the page. Please do not remove any existing speedy deletion tag(s).
  2. Make your case on the article's talk page.

Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. 70.116.31.203 14:09, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

you know, that is a mis-statement of WP policy. Anyone but the author can remove the tag. See WP:CSD. The need to use hangon only applies to the person who wrote the article. DGG (talk) 02:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DON'T MISUSE speedies

On a related note: Universal Savings Bank was tagged improperly by User:spryde; there were links in the speedied article to several pieces of significant news coverage. These are a prima facie evidence of importance/significance. --Elvey 17:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Elvey, I read through the article and I did not see anything that claimed notability. I therefore tagged it as such. It looked like any other piece of advert that tries to get put onto Wikipedia on a daily basis. spryde | talk 16:00, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The sentence I bolded, above, is obviously untrue. The version you marked for speedy deletion was, if anything, overly critical. Again, your speedy tag was improper and careless. --Elvey 19:24, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

On my talkpage.--Isotope23 talk 17:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not vandalism but a truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.147.235 (talk) 14:40, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mental Note

Remember the beginning-sql-tutorial links to see if the virus code has been removed. Isotope23 on November 2 removed the links spryde | talk 20:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alright

Ok i ll leave it alone, but can you tell me what happened with David Silveria? Where does it say he left? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ash48GotdaLife (talk • contribs) 22:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Well yeah but does that for sure mean hes out or is it just an assumption? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ash48GotdaLife (talk • contribs) 23:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Could you do me a favor: If anything else about David comes up pass it on to me please, it'd be appreciated —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ash48GotdaLife (talk • contribs) 02:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Indian

hI. Quite frankly I've had enough of some of the people on here. Not only did the Preity Zinta get 25 supports for an FA but was rejected by a small group, now the same group of editors are attempting to demote it not only from an A but from a GA back to a B class article and are gain attempting to delete images. I've put some weeks of effort into this - it took me ages to find a license to help wikipedia and it takes weeks for the article to eventually pass a GA and A with flying colours, but it makes we wonder if there is any point in anything I do on here if this is the kind of response I get ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 13:24, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I have dealt with the same thing. You just have to push through it and eventually you will come out on top. Some people do not get the hint the first time. spryde | talk 13:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I always try to keep away from any wiki councilling as much as possible and concentrate on what I think is most important -the articles - building this website into what it clearly has immense potential in. I almost always try to avoid this sort of situation which I don't think helps anybody, and as you know I am almost always completely civil and very friendly, but if somebody appears to be disruptive to my progression and attempts to wipe out weeks of hard work I will stamp down on them hard and should quite rightly be reactive to them. It really does make me question this system if an article can pass GA and A with flying colours after being reviewed by several people including adminsitrators that a have a lot of expereice in GA's and receive so much support for an FA only to be back where we started with. If I just stepped away from it I would lose all of what I have spent a lot of time working for. I just wish I didn't have to encounter people like this. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 13:57, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Actually...

I was just going with what the website said. It only lists Jonathan Davis, Munky and Fieldy as members of the band in the bios section. I edited the pages to reflect this. Plus, David was supposed to be back in the band in October of this year. Check Kornspace.com, look around, and you'll also find the interview where JD specifically stated that David will not be returning. Therefore, reverting my edits would be vandalism because you would be removing a true statement from the mouth of JD himself. BEst to just leave it alone. Dark Executioner 15:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

I thought that that was odd too, but then again he's been gone for a while, with no news emerging otherwise about his plans to return. That's pretty much what is accepted. Like I said, just leave it alone for now, because 1. Kornspace produces a bucnh more information than nearly any other site about them on the web, and 2. he pretty much has been replaced by several different people already, like Joey Jordison and, most recently, Michael Jochum. Dark Executioner 15:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Hey, have oyu heard the news? Ray Luzier is the new official drummer for Korn, at least for their early 2008 European tour. This pretty much confirms that David is (Sadly) gone. Just wanted to inform you of that. Oh yeah - there's a really pesky anonymous user who keeps denying David's departure on Korn's talk page, and it's borderlining disrespectful. If he keeps it up, I think that we should report him. Dark Executioner 15:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Alright he seems to have calmed down, but keep an eye on him. There's just no convincing him that David is not a part of Korn anymore, though! AS long as Korn keeps finding good replacements for David, I don't really care, but it is seeming a bit Spinal Tap-ish to me. I appreciate your help - I finally found a Korn fan who isn't an immature pottymouth that knows nothing about the band except for "Twisted Transistor," "Coming Undone" or "Evolution." Dark Executioner 20:16, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

[edit] 2007 Jenkem moral panic

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article 2007 Jenkem moral panic, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the template, I didn't realize that you were an experienced editor. Anyway, I prodded it because I think people are more likely to find this information at the main Jenkem article, and that further news should be added there instead of creating a separate article with a title that people aren't as likely to search for. As you know, you have the right to remove the tag if you disagree. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 14:12, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
For your tireless efforts in sourcing and improving Egyptair when some were going deletion-happy! Dethme0w 02:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Woohoo! My first! spryde | talk 02:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I Agree...

I agree, Spryde... However, this first came to my attention on Youtube... The Video was from TrueNorth15, one of my subscriptions... That clues that this was a hoax were the links to the left of the video screen, and that when I read the articles, I got the message even more clearly... Huffing the fumes from raw sewage... what crap, if you'll excuse the pun... Michael 15:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assumptions

Are you assuming that someone who works with skepticism isn't also interested in alternative views or vice-versa? I don't understand your question, I guess. ScienceApologist 18:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Certainly people who wish to promote a particular anti-scientific or pseudoscientific idea would find it uncomfortable to share space with someone who was opposed to such promotion, but Wikipedia is supposed to be a place where people of different persuasions and opinions can share their ideas. Alternative views seems to be about coordinating the efforts of people who are interested in editing articles about alternative views. It doesn't say that one must be promoting those views in order to be in the project. ScienceApologist 18:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MS

Please see my comment on the Talk:MS#Adding Verifiable Information, it applies to you but I posted it as a general comment. --CyclePat 05:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ragtag Cinema

Thanks for fixing that, I didn't realize doing reference tags wrong would mess up the page like that. I'll know to check that I did the tags right in the future now. Me5000 17:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration

I have added your name to involved parties in the MONGO 2 arbitration case as shown here.--MONGO (talk) 19:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Noted. spryde | talk 19:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for supporting me! Please find your thank you card here, should you wish to see it. I'm honored to have received your support. All the best, ~Eliz81(C) 02:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Zapmail

Hi, Thanks for your suggestion to use cite web for references in Zapmail. I had considered using cite web, but couldn't figure out how to cite the same work more than once. Your suggestion sent me back to the help pages and bingo. Done! Nelson50 (talk) 19:27, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Daimler

There are Volkswagens that cost more than a couple of hundred thousand dollars. Remember Lamborghini, Bugatti? They are owned by Volkswagen AG. But, as pointed out by the next response, trucks etc. make up a big part of Daimler. That could do the trick. I should do some research on that topic :)

p.s. it was me, who posted from IP 24.199.204.242 last night —Preceding unsigned comment added by EL GhouL (talk • contribs) 21:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


yeah, Daimler does get quite a bit of money from other areas (other than passenger vehicles) Newsweek: 2006 revenues at Volkswagen AG totaled €104.9B, while annual earnings equaled €5.99 per share. from: http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?symbol=VOWG.DE

2006 revenues at Daimler AG totaled €151.6B, while annual earnings equaled €3.14 per share. from: http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/earnings/earnings.asp?symbol=DAIGn.DE —Preceding unsigned comment added by EL GhouL (talk • contribs) 21:08, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Except for the Chrysler acquisition, they usually make some smart moves (the legacy of the acquisition can go either way but int he short term it looks to be negative). spryde | talk 21:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
But the decision to get rid of Chrysler was a good one. I liked that :) A company which manages to mess up a nearly perfect platform (Mercedes SLK) and produce Chrysler Crossfire from it - that company does not deserve to live ;) --sincerely yours, EL_GhouL (talk) 21:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I have just learned how to use signatures :) sincerely yours, EL_GhouL (talk) 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. If you forget, SineBot comes along and reminds you :-D spryde | talk 21:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

over here. -- Swerdnaneb 21:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. I have family in AR (Cabot, Lake Hamilton areas) and monitor some of the pages. It just so happens I saw this on DGG's page first :)

[edit] questionable speedy

I can not see why you marked the article on Portland Terminal Company for speedy delete as unimportant company. all railroads, even small ones, are obviously notable at WP. I of course declined the speedy. You've commented on ANB how fast you are doing the NP patrolling--maybe it is a little too fast. DGG (talk) 02:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I made a judgment call as I did not see anything that made this one any more special than any other railroad (I did read the article :) ) . I did not know that we considered Railroads inherently notable but I will tuck that into the back of my head. spryde | talk 02:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
not just railroads, but railroad stations! I know it sounds odd, but see WP:COMMON. anyway, the types of things to which A7 applies are interpreted narrowly. DGG (talk) 02:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I will stick to the easier categories of CSD :). A7 on anything but people and bands is a gamble it seems. spryde | talk 03:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TomTom

A DRV was opened concerning the non-admin early closure of the AFD on TomTom. I annulled that closure and the discussion is now reopened at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TomTom (2nd nomination). I am letting you know as you commented on the first AFD and may wish to do so on the second. Stifle (talk) 14:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! spryde | talk 15:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cinume

Here is the content from the Cinume article and the contribution history as requested, it is at User:Sp/Cinume. Davewild (talk) 16:44, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On December 9, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hoyt Library, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

[edit] AC

I'm going down the clerk procedure as im new to clerking. Im yet to get to that. -- Whiteandnerdy111 (talk) 19:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Really, really bad haikus from a new admin

Setting new lows in thank-you spam:

Click there for my RfA spam haikus! → → →


Shawn, thanks for your support in my RfA. You wrote that I was "levelheaded when confronted by others"[1] -- boy that takes a lot of work sometimes!! I expect to keep on doing it and I appreciate your trust.
--A. B. (talk) 23:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

PS Enjoy your haikus

[edit] DYK "clerking"

It looks pretty good, I just have worries it will over expand the T:TDYK page a little bit. Also, commenting on whether or not a hook is "NPOV", might cause some concern for some people, but I suppose if we have designated clerks doing that, then they are making that assertion for many varied types of hooks... Good effort so far, I wonder what others will think. Cirt (talk) 16:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC).

  • By the way, I'm flattered you'd come to me to ask for comment about this, really appreciated. Cirt (talk) 16:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC).
    • It's just that I'm not an Admin, and therefore I don't do the actual moving of stuff to the protected T:DYK page. Don't get me wrong, I can provide you with my perspective based on some of the work I do at T:TDYK, but there are plenty of other regulars at WP:DYK, who are Admins, that you could have asked. Cirt (talk) 16:21, 14 December 2007 (UTC).
  • By the way, I think your The Life Cycle of an Article in a Nutshell is quite interesting and funny. Sometimes that's a pretty accurate life cycle... Cirt (talk) 16:22, 14 December 2007 (UTC).

The use of the question mark seems good. It is more encouraging than a big red "x" or words like "Denied", "Rejected", etc. Archtransit (talk) 16:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Hiya. I follow DYK on the main page because i like the idea a lot and often the hooks and articles, but it was sometimes in practice a little frustrating or leaden to my mind. Lately it has seemed really good. Credit to the noms (of course!) but looking under the hood, prompted by this perception of mine, what do i see but that a lot of people have been doing work here lately. A boost in quality, no boost in ticked-off editors... Good job! 86.42.83.73 (talk) 14:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! We have tag-teamed it. I make no judgements on quality but just the bare facts. Others are picking the gems :) spryde | talk 14:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caviarsteel

Heya Sp! I noticed your report here: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Caviarsteel‎, thank you! I also noticed that the report did not show up on the parent page: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. It may be that you need to submit the report via the parent page. I'm not sure how to correct it other than to perhaps CSD the subpage and re-report via the button on the parent. kind regards, --guyzero | talk 20:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Shoot. I guess I forgot that. Rectified. spryde | talk 22:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] December 17

Can you please weigh in at T:TDYK about my hook in the December 17 section? An anonymous ip has commented, but everything in the article is sourced to multiple secondary sources, the article is of appropriate length, and was created from scratch on December 17. I believe it fits the WP:DYK qualifications, and would appreciate your comments. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 23:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka 3

Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holiday season and all the off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the Wikipedia:New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools. My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a great new year, --Elonka 07:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My Rfa

My effort to regain adminship was unsuccessful, and I'll do what I can to ensure your opinion of my suitability for adminship improves. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to voice your opinion.--MONGO 04:47, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I don't know you, and think your gratuitous remark about my character was without foundation

I've never worked with you. I've never communicated with you. If you based your remark on something other than what I posted, I'd like to know. Indeed, I've done a lot of work State Bar of Michigan, Anatomy of a Murder, Pewabic Pottery, and Frank Murphy to name four, that certainly have nothing to do with lighthouses. I've covered a lot of Michigan geography, including all 83 counties (with a citation to the Central Michigan Clarke Historical Library for each county). In any event, I was the victim here, and you want to put me on trial? I've got 6000 edits, and have never had a problem anything like this with anyone, but apparently that doesn't count for anything? Your partiality is showing, and I sincerely hope that it won't interfere with your abiity to fairly weigh the evidence. I am disappointed, but hopeful that you can correct your course. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Stan

Dear SP
Thank you. I will take your advice to heart.
I am sorry for having expressed what I felt. My perception (to me) as a mugging by the involved administrators, who shut me up, shut me down, then 'cleansed' my substantive edits, banned me from Wikipedia, and then removed (from their own pages) my protests about the propriety of what they had done.
I think that there cover up shows their intent, and clearly differentiates their behavior from good faith editorial decisions. I have not made that point, but it is still true.
IMO, this is part and parcel of a much larger pattern of overbearing conduct by a couple of administrators that is really disruptive of the purpose of Wiki, and anathema to its long term interests.
This is an administrative matter, and I won't be writing any of this on the Admin page, as I have no vested interest in the outcome. I also recognize that it is time for me to butt out, and for the admins to put their own house in order.
Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)Stan
SP
Hope things are going well for you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 03:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Stan

[edit] Video résumé

Hi - I hope you don't mind, but while creating a new category on Recruitment I came across your recovered text from the Cinume article debate/delete. I used a chunk of it as a basis for vastly improving the Video résumé article. Best Regards, --Trident13 (talk) 04:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)