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[edit] "Tours" or "Breezers"?

Now that the name of "Breezers" has been confirmed in the new timetable, I'm personally happy for the use of "Needles Breezers" etc. in the article. However, I queried Marc Morgan-Huws, the SV manager, with "I have noticed the use of "breezes" in place of "tour" on the timetables. Will this be extended to cover bus stop flags and other signs etc, or will it be limited to the timetables?" They reply was no.

So the question is, as there is a lot of other things to do with the tour other than the timetables, like these bus stop flags and even big signs (!!!) I found on Flickr, does the name stay as "Breezer" or go back to "tour" in the article. Also bear in mind the buses themselves will still show "tour" on their livery. (I don't know about the blinds). -- Thanks, Arriva436^shout! 21:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

The new website also shows them as "tours" -- Thanks, Arriva436^shout! 22:26, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Size of article

I have noticed that the article has got quite big recently, and according to Wikipedia:article size, somethings should be done soon!! Does anyone have any ideas on what we could separate from the main article. Personally I'd move the history onto a new article, with the "Liveries and names" section going too. Does anyone have any other ideas? -- Thanks, Arriva436^shout! 22:46, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, no one has said anything, so I have taken some action. The bus stations section has been scaled down, with the full information now on the Transportation on the Isle of Wight article. I think the info is more appropriate there, as Wightbus use the bus stations too, not just SV. -- Thanks, Arriva436^shout! 13:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The next thing I have done is to remove the current routes table to List of Southern Vectis bus routes. A lot of big bus companies have separate articles for their routes, such as Transdev Yellow Buses routes. Each article still links to each other in a number of places. If anyone has anything to say, then please feel free to add a comment here, I don't want to feel as though I'm talking to a brick wall! -- Thanks, Arriva436^shout! 17:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

The changes all look good. I agree with 'History of Southern Vectis'. At the moment, the history is in two places with the main section as well as 'liveries names and previous network' which should all be included. There is a lot of material around on their history as well as a timeline of Southern Vectis through the ages which will also soon be appearing on the new website. Editor5807 (talk) 18:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! The problem with the SV history being in two places here is something I too have noticed, and hopefully it can be fixed! The final change I will make before doing the history is to move the information on the "open top tours" section to its own article, Island Breezers (which was previously a redirect to the section). The means that as well as the main history of all the routes (like the old route numbers etc etc.) each route can have its own history under its own section, as there is far more space to play around with!!! This separate history I got from the "liveries names and previous network".

I think that it is worth these being in a separate article, as they can be expanded on a lot but not within the massive Southern Vectis page! After all, if The New Forest Tour can have its own article then why can't four routes?!

Since I started re-wording parts of the article (to limit the amount of words used) and page the first separation of info (the bus stations bit), the size of the article has decreased from 54KB to 37KB, something quite impressive in my opinion.

To keep all the article together, I've created new category Category:Southern Vectis

This is what is says on Wikipedia:article size so we're nearly done!

> 100 KB - Almost certainly should be divided up
> 60 KB - Probably should be divided (although the scope of a topic can sometimes justify the added reading time)
> 40 KB - May eventually need to be divided (likelihood goes up with size)
< 30 KB - Length alone does not justify division
< 1 KB - If an article or list has remained this size for over a couple of months, consider combining it with a related page. -- Thanks, Arriva436^shout! 20:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

It'll only initially increase the size of the article, but I've created Template:Isle of Wight Transport which can be applied to this and all related pages - hopefully that will make the article even easier to split up in the future (I'm thinking separate pages for the other 2 bus stations, for example).--Peeky44 (talk) 11:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Good idea! I think that also the Newport bus station especially can have a lot of information about its history and the reconstruction (temporary bus lane...) etc. too! -- Arriva436^talk 15:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)