Talk:Southern Historical Society

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[edit] Survived vote for deletion

This article survived a vote for deletion which can be found here.

[edit] Under construction

With a lot of new material recently added, I am working to format it and revise the article to make it encyclopedic. The quotations from Dabney's book will be synthesized, but User:Maury may wish to post them to Wikisource (if that's the right place for it - I only know Wikipedia myself). --Habap 15:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

The entire passage of "RECOLLECTIONS OF A VIRGINIAN IN THE MEXICAN, INDIAN, AND CIVIL WARS" should be moved to Wikisource if possible. Southern Historical Society: Its Origin and History, likewise, needs to be moved off to Wikisource. Then, supplement it with encyclopedic information on the actual history of the society, its activities and such. -- Миборовский U|T|C|M|E|Chugoku Banzai! 03:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Maury, four editors feel this article needs cleanup and yet no changes have been made since March

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I have been busy "contributing" in many other areas on WikiPedia that also soon will be destroyed.--Maury

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- unless the article actually gets cleaned up, the tag will be placed on the article so that other editors might come to clean it up. If you would like to modify the article so that it looks like an encyclopedia article instead of a copy of a book out of your ancestor's book, then perhaps the cleanup tag should be removed. --Habap 19:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I have copied (transwikied in an amateur way) Southern Historical Society: Its Origin and History to wikisource here.

We should do the same with the ancestral Maury's article. --Habap 19:24, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

We should do the same with the ancestral Maury's article

"Gung Ho" = working together. To all, why not alert me (and others)when these things occur on our Talk Page? I did not know this conversation and voting was taking place. I know you all mean good, that's why we all are here -- to do good -- but like the man said, "...a heavy heart." I do not know how to write as an encyclopedia is read. I cannot write anymore now. Thank you one and all for allowing me to even write or try to "contribute" on WikiPedia. Go ahead and burn my work -- all of it. What's the use of any of it ..... wasted time only to feel betrayed and hurt. I thought I was part of a team constructing something good for anyone and everyone.

--Maury 04:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Your work has not been in vain. I have moved the SHS origin and history article to a more appropriate and equally accessible location. I am suggesting moving the portion of this article that is also just a direct copy of the text from a book to that same location. Both would be referenced here.
I don't understand why you want to quit so quickly - one of the hallmarks of Wikipedia is that the work belongs to no single individual. Thus, I restored the cleanup tag, so that others would know there was work to be done and it needn't only be done by you or by me. If you wish to be childish and quit when things seem not to go your way, you're welcome to. I would suggest that the folks who formed the SHS wouldn't quit so quickly.
In fact, I have alerted you by posting comments here and in the edit comments and in the edit history of the other article. --Habap 16:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Habap, it was a mere moment of a late at night and tired _weakness_ (we all have them) and perhaps due to the sudden surprize of seeing the vote had taken place and this specific date of April 14th. I do not keep looking back over all that I write so I had no alert. Sometiimes I do look back over what I have posted byt certainly not on everything. But I do hope that Wikipedia's search engine will pick up WikiSource articles. There may be different search engines as far as I know and on different servers and not connected, each carrying it's own information.
  • There is a person on Wikipedia that apparently _continues_ to think (and writes inaccurately) that the Southern Historical Society was founded by "Jubal Early" and he could not be much further from the truth. I have proved it with the statements I've made and that is also how The Southern Historical Society: It's Origin and History was posted which naturally has to be verbatum. One way I proved the point of the founder was by pointing to Gettysburg articles s/he has posted. Now that website doesn't show that information and instead carries many more articles all linked from WikiPedia. He has search engines picking up his website through his statements and copied sources, verbatum, on Gettysburg. My understanding is that one cannot use WikiPedia for a website and whle s/he doesn't it's skirting the issue. "Credit where credit is due", the founder of the SHS was former Major General Dabney Herndon Maury -- who by the way is not my "ancestor" as he is _collateral kin_ (a nephew, one of many to M.F.Maury) while lineal kin, Commander Matthew Fontaine Maury(USN) is an " ancestor."
  • As I have stated, I apparently do not know how to change something to an "encyclopedia format" and I have no concerns about others _editing_ anything so it fits that mould as long as it is accurate history after editing it.
  • "Childish" is a provocative word and should not be used against anyone. Everyone here knows this, or should know it. We need not _provoke_ one another -- the Civil war started that way just as many, if not most, wars start that way. We are here to build and not to destroy. Anyone can destroy but not anyone can build. Anyone can call another names which in itself is "childish" but I prefer not to.
  • Question: Why do I have to sign in as MAURY on WikiPedia but as Maury on WikiSource? WikiSource will not allow MAURY. But I sign, when I have to, as "Maury" as it should be. I travel from one area, WikiPedia to another, WikiSource, and find that I am not logged in with the latter area. Why is that? I am logged in with WikiPedia. If one does a search on WikiPedia will the subject on WikiSource show up? I am unfamiliar with all of the Wikis just as I think you stated you usually are on WikiPedia, so am I also usually on WikiPedia which is more than enough to build on in it's own right. Please also allow more time for me to _absorb_ all of the rules.

--MAURY 17:37, 14 April 2006 (UTC)