Talk:South Asia Analysis Group
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[edit] Notability
The subject of this article does not appear to meet the requirements of Wikipedia:Notability (organizations), as the sources cited do not meet Wikipedia:Reliable sources ... self-reference does not count for notability. --72.75.72.174 18:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- ahem. Columbia University. Removing bad-faith taggingBakaman 22:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- FYI, if you can find the link on the Columbia page (you call that being the "subject of an article"?) and click it, it says, The page cannot be found ... hardly a reliable source ... on closer examination, the text from that website has been copy&pasted into this article ... a clear WP:COPYVIO, so I have tagged it accordingly. --72.75.72.174 03:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Qouting from http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/indiv/southasia/cuvl/govt.html :
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An Indian think-tank group, with notes, analyses, papers, updates, on all aspects of Indian security issues and international relations. Analysts include B. Raman (retired Addtional Secretary, Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, and presently Director of the Institute for Topical Studies, Channai), S. Gopal (former Special Secretary, Govt. of India), Dr. S. Chandrasekharan, C.S. Kuppuswamy (former Director of the Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India), and others.
- Now what part of the official policy Wikipedia:Copyright violations do you not understand? Or do you mean that the Columbia website copied it from the Wikipedia article? (Maybe they both got it from the subject's website?) —72.75.72.174 11:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Further copyvio
Gee, it looks like the rest of the article is a copyvio from http://www.intute.ac.uk/socialsciences/cgi-bin/fullrecord.pl?handle=sosig1130857435-20312 ... that's the other "Reference" that is not the subject's own website. —72.75.72.174 13:36, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cleanups
In the interest of cooperation, I have added {{cite web}} references for the three external links. --72.75.72.174 22:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Who does B. Raman represent?
The article copies the assertion from a Columbia University web page that describes B. Raman as "retired Additional Secretary, Cabinet Secretariat, Govt. of India, and presently Director of the Institute for Topical Studies, Chennai", but Strategic Affairs Magazine describes him as "a retired additional secretary of the Cabinet Secretariat and heads the South Asia Analysis Group in Chennai" ... the Columbia page has a bad link for the SAAG website, so who who knows how old it is, or how out of date the information may be? Neither web page is dated ... what is his current position?
So, is this individual an impartial contributor who can be independently cited, or are they the guiding force behind the subject organization, because the latter would raise WP:COI issues. It also begs the question of why is there a link to an essay by one of the subject's contibutors? Unless it is used to document B. Raman as the current head of the subject organization, it should be removed from the article's links section as being off-topic. --72.75.72.174 14:42, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
