Talk:Soundwave (Transformers)

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[edit] I've said this before!!

I've said this before and I'm going to say it again Ratbat is a partner of Soundwave in the G1 series of Transformers. Stop removing him from the partners list in the side bar!!

user:Gun Ship

[edit] Difference between Packaged with and Partnered with

Quote Transformers: Generation 1 (1984) "in the tape compartment, which becomes his chest in robot mode, he stores the Decepticon spy cassettes Ravage, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw, Ratbat, Rumble, and Frenzy, who seem to exist in a quasi-symbiotic relationship with him."

In the US Transformers G1 animated series Soundwave is partnered with Ravage, Laserbeak, Ratbat, Rumble, Frenzy and Buzzsaw. Just because Frenzy and Ratbat were not packaged with the Action Master or Universe Soundwave toy does not mean they are not partnered with him. All not packaged with means is you couldn’t get them in the same box as Soundwave.

user:Gun Ship

They worked together like any other two decepticons - Runamuch and Runabout, etc. user:mathewignash

mathewignash I will be posting on the talk page proof that they are partnered with Soundwave.

user:Gun Ship

[edit] About Soundwave Partners

The following is a list of Soundwave partners and Frenzy and Ratbat are included. Please stop removing them.

Buzzsaw
Ravage
Laserbeak
Ratbat
Rumble
Frenzy

User:Gun Ship

Wingthing it the partner of Action Master Soundwave, Space Case is the partner to Universe Soundwave. Look it up. As for the above cassettes, versions of Soundwave have been packaged with many cassettes, but not wih Frenzy or Ratbat. They were both sold without Soundwave and therefore are NOT his partners. user:mathewignash

Not sure if "Universe" should be lowercase, since it's the name of a product line. --Daniel Tate 00:59, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I have restored and added to the list of partners. Take a poll if you like, but I think that most Transformers G1 fans will agree that any Decepticon cassette is a partner of Soundwave by default. It doesn't matter who was packaged with what: cassettes and cassette players are a match, and the cassettes have always been described / portrayed as being associates (possibly even dependents) of Soundwave. I also left Wingthing and Space Case alone, even though I think they're rather irrelevant. (The Action Masters and the Universe line have been all but ignored in Transformers fiction.) Spekkio 06:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

The current listing for partners is as follows:
Buzzsaw
Laserbeak
Ravage
Rumble
Frenzy
Ratbat
Slugfest
Overkill
Slugfest
Beastbox
Space Case
Wingthing
These are all valid partners by their very nature - they all only exist in subspace until ejected from Soundwave's cassette deck! If someone wants to be ultra-pedantic, maybe a line in the Toys section listing those cassettes that he was packaged with is warranted, but the character was partnered with all of the above. -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 10:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Jedilofty all Decepticon cassettes are valid partner of Soundwave so I am going to put my foot down. mathewignash if you are going to edit this page so it provides inaccurate information and illegal images I will report you to an admin. Do I make my self clear?

User:Gun Ship

I have fixed the list on the page AGAIN! -- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 08:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I have been forced to restore the list to its full content. I propose we seriously have a vote and end this editing once and for all. So please sound off: should the list be restricted to pack-ins, or all Decepticon cassettes? Spekkio 22:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)


I am reluctant to reopen this debate, but I don't think it's fair to include Space Case or Wingthing as partners; in the case of Space Case, I think it's reasonable to say 'packaged with', as he appears to be a more distinct and individual character than any cassette-mold, and in the case of Wingthing, I think the description of 'Action Master Partner' should be appended, as Wingthing is a more unique case than the cassettes. 24.37.244.211 17:47, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

There is a discussion going on about this at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Transformers#Partners.-- JediLofty User ¦ Talk 19:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Decepticon logo

What is the source of the information about Soundwave's face being the inspiration for the Decepticon logo? I'm not saying it's untrue, but I've never heard it before. The connection seems a little strained to me, but if a reliable source is produced I'll be fine with it.--Sean|Black 22:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Well, in fairness, I can't think of an official source, if one has ever stated it. Regardless, it's been an accepted fact for quite some time now. In the same way, the Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen mould is the inspiration for the Autobot symbol - it's not a coincidence that both symbols resemble the faces of two toys. - User: Chris McFeely 13:11, 11 December 2005
    • Now that you mention it, I have heard this before. Think you can find something online, at least?--Sean|Black 23:22, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
      • Unfortunately, after a bit of searching, all I can see to find is a lot of different topics of people saying "Hey, the Decepticon logo looks like Soundwave," and other people going, "Yeah, it was based on him." - User: Chris McFeely 12th December 2005
        • Okay, I've put it back, but with a disclaimer stating that it's only fan speculation. Is that okay?--Sean|Black 21:59, 14 December 2005 (UTC)#
          • Looks good to me. :) Chris, 15 December 2005

[edit] Buzzsaw

Should a mention be made about Buzzsaw (the Lazerbeak-like bird casette that came packaged with the original Soundwave? Dexeron 18:48, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Madden?

Why is there a picture of John Madden and Pat Summerall on the page?

[edit] Cleanup?

This article looks awful and could really use some cleanup! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.71.194.105 (talk) 07:43, 28 April 2007 (UTC).

It was written somewhere in the article that Soundwave was "far from stupid" and "kept his mouth shut" when disposing of Megatron's body. To clean it up, I've changed "stupid" to "outspoken" and instead of saying "kept his mouth shut" , I changed it to "kept mournfully silent". Hope the original author doesn't mind my small edit. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.45.43.68 (talk) 19:40, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hated?

Some people I know call him "The Jar-Jar Binks of Transformers". Is it because he has such a laughable alt form?

That sounds pretty groundless. Soundwave is definitely one of the best remembered of the Decepticons.--MrDopple 21:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
The people that you know are in the minority. Soundwave is by far the most popular transformer. Rivalling Prime and Megatron.

Bumblebee was the Jarjar of Transformers, until the move. 24.63.75.131 (talk) 22:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC) -G

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Soundwave comic.jpg

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BetacommandBot 01:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] soundwave redirects to sound?

I type in soundwave and it goes to the sound article. Can someone make it so it doesn't force one straight to the sound article? I had to type soundwave (transformer) to find this page.Desertmonk 00:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

No as it is highly likely that more people are looking for the scientific explaination of a soundwave than a toy article. Madslocodemente 04:09, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Speculated where exactly?

It suggest in the animated storyline for Soundwave that it is speculated he may have looked for a way to reverse Galvatron's creation so that he would be Megatron again. Sounds more like a fan fiction piece to me. Could that be sourced from somewhere, otherwise it's just nonsense as nothing happened in the series to suggest that. Madslocodemente 02:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

soundwave is awsome. nuff said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.9.60.196 (talk) 00:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You tube link removal

1 link removed - Animation footage - No indication from clip information or uploader profile has rights to footage, or is connected with the production entity responsible for it. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Soundwave or Soundwave (Transformers)?

Currently, Soundwave is a redirect to Soundwave (Transformers), while sound wave is a redirect to sound. Personally, I dislike redirects from XXX to XXX (YYY). The main article should be either a real article or a disambiguation page, not a redirect. However, there is the confusion between the name spelled together or separated. Therefore I propose moving this back to Soundwave and adding disambiguation notices to both pages:

This article is about the Transformers character. For real-life sound waves, see sound.
"Sound wave" redirects here. For the Transformers character, see Soundwave.

What are your opinions? JIP | Talk 21:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)