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    [edit] Criticism Section

    This entire section is ridiculous. Most of it is centered around how the general state of hip-hop is perceived today; we don't have to write ten million paragraphs about what this indirectly implies toward Soulja Boy. On top of that, the section is nowhere near objective. For example, it cites a few reviews from all these random websites that no one's ever heard of to support the idea that Soulja Boy is universally panned by critics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.11.140.87 (talk) 22:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

    You know, to be honest, I had to tone down that section a bit because it was getting so fat it was outnumbering the actual biographical information about SB, which would cause this page to become a borderline attack page, which is against Wiki rules. Also, keep in mind that since SB is a living person just like the rest of us, making too much space in the article for "attacking" SB would go against the "Biographies of Living Persons" policy, as well as "Neutral Point of View". I'll keep proofreading this article later. --Andrewlp1991 (talk) 06:11, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Wrong Tense

    Is there one person on this website or is there a whole bunch of idiots who are bad wid da grammar in da skoolz. 'In November 2005 Soulja Boy, along with another rapper "Arab" posts his songs on the music-based social community SoundClick. Following positive reviews on SoundClick, Soulja Boy opens a YouTube acc'

    It's POSTED his songs.... Soulja boy OPENED.. You can put 'posts songs on soundclik. Soulja Boy opens a youtube... but you would have to use bullets for each sentence. And it's not just here. I have noticed this type of retarded writing on SEVERAL different pages. (mostly dealing with hip hop related articles)

    [edit] Vandalism in Early Life section

    Please lock this article from edits from anonymous contributors. They only vandalize the content within this article. Ishmael Rufus 15:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

    The word 'life' was inserted before the word 'partner'. I'd fix it, but I don't have an account. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.18.180.194 (talk) 02:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

    Fixed, thanks! --TeaDrinker (talk) 02:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Soulja Boy or Soulja Boy Tell 'Em?

    On almost every reference, his name is Soulja Boy Tell 'Em not only Soulja Boy. Should we edit the article? I am. (talk) 05:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


    Yep, on both his official site, Universal site and the Interscope site he is referred to as 'Soulja Boy Tellem.' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.111.47.26 (talk) 12:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

    Same goes for Universal's YouTube. I say change it. 70.21.171.213 23:31, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
    I updated it! ≈Alessandro ♫ T • C 23:41, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Add section 4 song meaning

    On most single/song pages there is a section explaining the songs meaning. Where is the section in this article. There needs to be one. It is extremely sad that 17 yr old is rapping about b*tches, hoes, and ejaculating semen on a girls back (that is what superman that ho means!); but even more terrible that young kids are singing it and dancing to it like it the Electric Slide! But the worst is that this trash song is on the KidzBop & Now...Music compilations. Nas is right. Hip Hop Is dead ! by 03:49, 16 October 2007 72.66.1.116 (Talk) (7,585 bytes).

    I agree this song is disgusting and very disrespectful to women. 71.71.250.195 14:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
    There has to be a reference or some type of validity behind your claim. Please do not attempt to push an agenda. Ishmael Rufus (talk) 17:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

    R u kidding Ishmael Rufus ? No 1 is pushing anything. All song pages in wikip have a section that discusses/states a song meaning. Listen to the song. The song itself prooves the validity. Plus all the negative reviews also mention the songs terrible meaning and message. Read this article from students in St. Louis. Also Google it and 'reviews' and see what you get. Read its review from allmusic guide. All neg bc of the songs content(tho the catchy beat is praised). I learned from reading the song's wikipage that even fellow crap rapper Snoop Dogg doesnt like the song. Nor do 50 cent and Jermaine Dupri who call it 'mindless music'. 70.108.56.92 (talk) 10:28, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Uh, why exactly is this page protected?

    Uh, why exactly is this page protected? Great so random rap artist pages are protected but subjects like the Israel-Arab conflict aren't. It would appear his manager doesn't want any one editing his page. Isn't Wikipedia great? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.108 (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

    Pages that experience great vandalism are semi-protected so that only established users can edit them. Since most vandalism comes from unregistered users, it automatically stems down most vandalism. Please register so you can make factual edits ♣ChiTownBearsFor Life♣ 04:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
    Looking at your previous edits, you should know exactly why the page is protected. Hencetalk (talk) 14:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


    [edit] Official Site

    For a page that's protected from editing, you'd think they would have accurate information. The official site is wrong and it brings me to a stupid site that spells it as "solja" all over the place. Great job, "solja boy" fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.116.32 (talk) 01:32, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] "1.3 Recently" accuracy

    Something needs to be done about the posted information given, and although it states Soulja Boy came out with a supposed remix of his popular hit song "Crank Dat", I can' find anything valuable with the posted, also I haven't been able to find that "popular" remix either on my filesharing program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chalino1 (talk • contribs) 21:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

    I don't know about an official remix (one that was created by Soulja Boy), but there is a remix of Crank Dat by Travis Barker. I know this, because I have it. Call it a "rock remix," if you will. Ninety2ina45 13:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Inaccurate Source Citing

    The Criticism section cites [9] as the source for

    Many other hip hop and music critics dub Soulja Boy the "Nickelback of hip hop".

    I don't see mention of this in the article. --Sionide21 (talk) 05:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Horrible writing

    I'm assuming an "administrator" is allowed to make changes to this page if we can't. However, whoever is in charge cannot write correctly at all. I mean, punctuation, grammar, capitalization rules were all taught in 3rd grade. For this to be a good credible source, at least it should look professional. This refers to the new section added: 1.3 Recently.

    [edit] Please add

    In November 2005 Soulja Boy, along with another rapper "Arab" posts his songs on the music-based social community SoundClick. Following positive reviews on SoundClick, Soulja Boy opens a YouTube account on January 13, 2006 so "... people can put your face to the things you spitting." The following month Soulja expanded onto MySpace to increase his fan base. A year later in March 2007 he would record "Crank That" and release his first independent album Unsigned and Sill Major. On April 11th a low budget video is filmed demonstrating the "Soulja Boy" dance. By the end of May 2007 "Crank That" receives its first air play and Soulja Boy meets with Mr. Collipark to sign a deal with Interscope Records. August 12, 2007, the song appears on the Emmy-award winning HBO series Entourage and by September 1st it has broken into the top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100 and tops the Billboard Hot RingMasters chart.[1] --192.193.221.141 15:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

    Of course, if you can find reliable sources for these claims and if they add to the integrity of this article then I will be happy to incorporate them into the article ♣ChiTownBearsFor Life♣ 04:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Protected Page

    OK, how can Skaterdave11...something access the article to place some trash on the first line, somebody revert please. Rick-Levitt Talk Contribs 17:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

    soulja boy's second hit single was soulja gir ft. i15 and Arab —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.149.50.236 (talk) 23:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

    JK LOL (: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.22.201 (talk) 18:12, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Does soulja boy count as a rapper?

    or simply a "musician"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hobovampire (talk • contribs) 21:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

    I strongly move that Soulja boy be tagged as just "pop" rather than "rap;" his mind numbing melodies are embarassing to rap as a genre and reinforce negative stereotypes. Yaaah bitch? I think not. CabbagePatchCashSON (talk) 04:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

    "Pop" is not a catch-all category for just any artist one wants to cast out of one's favorite genre. How can Soulja Boy be a "negative stereotype" of rap without first being rap? / edg ☺ ☭ 05:12, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Cleaned up some vandalism

    Come on guys, you may hate this "artist" but vandalizing the page hurts us a lot more than it hurts him. Chembro84 (talk) 01:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Whoever locked the page missed an edit

    One of the instruments he plays is listed as the "skin flute." I found it amusing in a South Park-ian way but a registered editor should probably remove it. 68.229.184.37 (talk) 07:10, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

    Fixed. Thanks, --TeaDrinker (talk) 07:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Merge with Crank That (Soulja Boy)

    This article should be merged with Crank That (Soulja Boy). This person is not notable enough to have his own article. dearly 16:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

    You're joking right? Of course he is notable enough to have his own article.≈Alessandro ♫ T • C 22:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

    of course he's notable, his criticized more than he's praised, i think people are watching to see the very moment his career crumbles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.188.180.251 (talk) 02:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Soulja Boy and fake A Bathing Ape clothing

    Under "Criticism", there should be something about the criticism he receives for wearing fake BAPE clothing and shoes, despite having a song dedicated to the brand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpraidzzz (talk • contribs) 15:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Sexual innuendo critism just rumors and urban legends...

    The sexual innuendo's supposedly associated with the song 'Crank Dat' are just rumors and urban legend. Snopes.com has yet to address this, but from the best I can tell these rumors started out on the internet. In the article the editor links to urbandictionary.com as a citation to show that the 'superman' is a sexual maneuver. It may be true that a sexual maneuver is named the 'superman' and is in use as slang but there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that this is what Soulja Boy was referring to in his song. I recommend whoever has the ability to edit this page, which is currently locked, delete that part which is under the heading "controversies." It's simply not true. It is rumor and has become something of an urban legend but not only is there no evidence this is what Soulja Boy meant, common sense and good rap comprehension skills would lead the neutral observer to conclude otherwise. The fact is that Soulja Boy was simply rapping about a dance move - one which he invented.

    In the song itself he only says once or twice the words "superman that ho," and notably doesn't say the word 'ho' or any other word that might mean female in most of the occurrences of him talking about performing the action 'superman.' At the beginning of many verses Soulja Boy says the phrase "Soulja Boy off in this ho, watch me crank it watch me roll." In this instance the word "ho" doesn't mean female (or prostitute) either, it is simply him saying that he is here (or rather on this track). In much the same way, when he says "watch me Superman that ho" the word "ho" is not intended to mean a female or a prostitute either. This is a common misunderstand of the slang word "ho" which does not in every slang or ebonics use of the word mean either a female or a prostitute. Often it is just used as a pronoun for any place or object. When he says "superman that ho," Soulja Boy simply means to watch him preform the dance maneuver named the "superman." This usage of the word "ho" can be a significant challenge to explain to persons who haven't heard it used in that formula or that context. I hope I have done this adequately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Streetknowhow (talk • contribs) 10:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

    Actually, all you've done is make a stream of assertions, which may (or may not) be true, and which may (or may not) be relevant to the article. Please provide credible sources and references. 78.86.33.152 (talk) 13:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

    I understand that we need to be sure about these things before they are put in the article. However, I find it extremely unlikely that Soulja Boy just happened to use the term "superman that ho", which also has the sexual meaning, to mean something else. If he did not mean it in a sexual way, he probably would have intentionally not used those words as to not have his meaning confused. Perhaps you are correct, but I heavily doubt it. -BBonds —Preceding unsigned comment added by BBonds (talk • contribs) 17:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

    Rumors and urban legend!?!?!? The lyrics are right there sexual innuendo throughout the song if you think that's not true than you're just an idiot!Parralax (talk) 19:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

    LOOK AT THIS reference - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=crank+that+ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.108.89 (talk) 22:42, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

    You know that Urban Dictionary is not considered as a reliable source --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 02:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

    Then did you read "Add section 4 song meaning" above. Whatever is a "reliable source", you will find the same answer. it IS obvious that the lyrics in Crank That and some of his other songs are sexual unless you are blind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.108.89 (talk) 17:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] gay pride?

    What is up with the gay pride pic of soulja boy? --70.152.229.177 (talk) 00:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

    It was vandalism, and has been removed. --TeaDrinker (talk) 00:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

    it was pretty hilarious though.--Dlo2012 (talk) 00:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

    It's back...lol! Somebody better save dat (Garbage Boy) ViperSnake151 15:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
    It won't be funny when that IP address and User is prevented from making further edits. Ishmael Rufus (talk) 05:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
    Actually, that'd make it even funnier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.97.7 (talk) 20:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

    Yeah, it's my new wallpaper now!--Dlo2012 (talk) 22:42, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

    Epic. StardustDragon 21:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] UK chart

    Crank That has peaked in at number 10 so far in the UK top 40, not 1479.75.180.30 (talk) 11:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

    I cant edit the page but it has got upto number 3 in the UK charts so someone should edit that.

    reference - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles.shtml  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.82.208.143 (talk) 00:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
    I'll do it for you! ≈Alessandro ♫ T • C 00:39, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

    I would've done it myself but the page was locked, ah well he's number 3 now. Thanks for doing that for me79.67.198.235 (talk) 13:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Vandalism Again

    There is alot of vandalism throughout the article, that needs to be cleaned up.

    64.149.178.118 (talk) 00:04, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


    [edit] Opinions

    To anyone looking to vandalize, needlessly edit, or put commentary in the artice, DON'T.I am tired of seeing in an article 'this song is repetitive' or anything like that. This article has become the target of editors who feel it is important to emphasize that their opinions are fact. If you feel like doing that, then too bad because I'm watching this article closely. wiki_is_unique (talk) 13:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

    I don't do it myself, but if I see vandalism on this page I won't bother to revert it. Soulja Boy is the cancer that is killing this world. StardustDragon 21:55, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Is Soulja Boy a Folk?

    Folk Nation from Chicago? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.14.100 (talk) 21:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] soulja boy in a rap metal band

    Soulja boy has recently joined an unsigned rap metal band called "Kill the DJ"

    71.195.7.78 (talk) 20:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

    Citation?(in a side note i hope this isnt true)Parralax (talk) 02:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] The Page is Erased completely.

    I don't know who did it, but there is no edit button to fix it. So, if anyone knows how to fix it now, here is the information that was on it.

    DeAndre Ramone Way[1] (born July 28, 1990 in Chicago, Illinois), better known by his stage name Soulja Boy Tell 'Em, or simply Soulja Boy, is an American rapper. In September 2007, his single "Crank That (Soulja Boy)" reached number one on the Billboard Hot 100. At age six, Way moved to Atlanta, Georgia[2][3], where he became interested in rap music. [4] At age 14, he moved to Batesville, Mississippi with his father, who provided a recording studio for Way to explore his musical ambitions.[2][3] He became known nationally for his song "Crank That (Soulja Boy)", which he initially self-published on the Internet, as it became a number-one hit in the United States for seven non-consecutive weeks starting in September 2007.

    Contents [hide] 1 Career 2 Criticism 3 Discography 3.1 Albums 3.2 Singles 4 References 5 External links


    Career In November 2005, Way posted his songs on the music-based social community SoundClick. Following positive reviews on the site, Soulja Boy then established his own web pages on YouTube and MySpace.[5][6] In March 2007, he recorded "Crank That" and released his first independent album Unsigned and Still Major, followed by a low-budget video filmed demonstrating the "Soulja Boy" dance. By the end of May 2007, "Crank That" received its first air play and Soulja Boy met with Mr. Collipark to sign a deal with Interscope Records.

    On August 12, 2007, the song appeared on the Emmy-award winning HBO series Entourage, and by September 1, it topped the Billboard Hot 100 and Hot RingMasters charts.[7] Way's major label debut album Souljaboytellem.com, which was reportedly recorded using just the demo version of FL Studio[8][4], was released in the United States on October 2[9], peaking at #4 on both the Billboard 200 and Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums charts.[10]

    On December 9, 2007, Way was sued by William Lyons (aka Souljah Boy of the Mo Thugs) who claims he first created the stage name 'Souljah Boy'. [11]


    Criticism The album Souljaboytellem.com was met with mixed reviews, ranging from a positive from All Music Guide[9], to a negative in Entertainment Weekly,[12] Several reviewers credited Soulja Boy with spearheading a new trend in hip-hop, while speculating the artist may still be a one hit wonder.[13][14][15][16]

    Critics and hip-hop figures such as Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, and Jermaine Dupri cite Soulja Boy as artistically typical of contemporary rap trends such as writing for the lucrative ringtone market, and the ascendence of "Southern hip hop", emphasizing catchy, mindless music that dicards rap's traditional emphasis on message.[17][18][14] Soulja Boy identifies his goal as making upbeat, party-themed music that avoids the negative, violent image that he sees in most hip-hop.[18][17]


    Discography Main article: Soulja Boy discography

    Albums Souljaboytellem.com Released: October 2, 2007 Chart position: #26 U.S.[19] US Sales: 608,851 copies sold.[20] RIAA Certification: Platnuim

    Singles Year Title Chart positions[21] Album U.S. U.S. R&B U.S. Rap CAN N.Z. UK 2007 "Crank That (Soulja Boy)" 1 3 1 5 2 3[22] Souljaboytellem.com "Soulja Girl" (featuring I-15) 32 13 8 - - - 2008 "Yahhh" (featuring Arab) - - - - - -


    References ^ a b Harris, Lauren. Top 20 Singles of the Year (11-15) VH1: December 18, 2007 ^ a b Cordor, Cyril. Soulja Boy biography at All Music Guide ^ a b Let The Kids Grow by Jack Erwin. XXL Magazine. January 2008. Page 69 ^ a b Soulja Boy at SoundClick ^ Soulja Boy @ YouTube ^ Soulja Boy @ MySpace ^ Vibe Magazine. Ayo, Technology by Brent S. Grier. November 2007. Page 50. ^ "Rap City" (September 2007). BET. ^ a b Jeffries, David. "Souljaboytellem.com" Overview. All Music Guide: 2007 ^ All Music Chart - Souljaboytellem.com ^ Starpulse News Blog - Soulja Boy Sued Over Name (December 9, 2007) ^ Vozick-Levinson, Simon (2007-10-05). Music Review: Souljaboytellem.com. Entertainment Weekly. Time. Retrieved on 2007-12-27. “At least he owns a cool domain name. D” ^ Robinson, Patrick. Soulja Boy - Souljaboytellem.com Review. 411mania.com, LLC. Retrieved on 2007-12-27. “...not a chore to listen to in that sense and Soulja Boy does show some signs of youthful enthusiasm.” ^ a b B-Easy. "Superboy". The nappyafro Staff. Retrieved on 2007-12-27. “I know it’s supposed to be a fun album for the pre-teen/teen kids, but for me personally I need more substance.” Rating: 1/5 ^ Griff. Soulja Boy - Souljaboytellem.com. Okayplayer.com. Retrieved on 2007-12-27. “This one's definitely geared for the kiddies... does an excellent job of catering to current industry trends with ringtone themes ... and dance moves galore ... Despite all the criticism that he’s received from hip-hop purists, it’d be naive to think Soulja Boy hasn’t changed the face of hip-hop” ^ The Review - Review of Souljaboytellem.com ^ a b Huge hits don’t spell success for new rap stars. msnbc.com. Associated Press (2007-10-19). Retrieved on 2007-12-11. “Labels aren’t developing acts and more are writing ringtones, veterans say” ^ a b Nekesa Mumbi Moody (2007-10-18). New rap stars find success fleeting. Yahoo! Music. Associated Press. Retrieved on 2007-12-27. “Seventeen-year-old Soulja Boy says that's what people want to hear these days.” ^ http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.6148/title.hip-hop-album-sales-week-ending-12-24-07 ^ http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.6148/title.hip-hop-album-sales-week-ending-12-24-07 ^ Artist Chart History. Billboard. Accessed October 9, 2007. ^ The Official UK Singles Chart : 16.12.2007 Accessed December 16, 2007

    External links Official website Official SoundClick Soulja Boy at MySpace Soulja Boy's YouTube channel Soulja Boy Lyrics [hide]v • d • eSoulja Boy Albums Unsigned and Still Major · Souljaboytellem.com Singles "Crank That (Soulja Boy)" · "Soulja Girl" · "Yahhh!" "Let Me Get Em" Other Discography —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravenmonroe (talk • contribs) 23:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

    [edit] Initial Reception

    Please consider removing the last line of the Initial Reception section, referring to "his goal as making ...music that avoids the negative, violent image that he sees in most hip-hop.[18][17]" This doesn't seem to be his real goal if you look at the lyrics to Crank That Soulja Boy. Even if it is his goal, I think his goal is not relevant to his reception.

    Also, if this alleged goal is included anywhere in the article, please balance it with facts about his lyrics. so that people can draw their own conclusions. Lyrics to Crank That Soulja Boy include inviting others to watch him "supersoak dat b*tch" and "superman dat hoe", and perform other mysogynistic acts that are clearly negative and violent. References for translations of the slang include your external link to the words and urbandictionary.com translations of the slang. Some public schools have banned it too - reference http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/20/AR2007122000913.html Another user in the comment above about song meaning references an article by a student who explains very well how it demeans women.

    Thank you.Wikiwacky1 (talk) 06:28, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

    I think this is a valid point, the two references to the statement are quite vague as to this being his stated goal. I'll see what change I can make, since the article is currently semi-protected. --TeaDrinker (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] middle name

    I found in another article that soulja boy's real middle name is Cortez. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.8.199.110 (talk) 03:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Concern

    [edit] 3 Trillion Downloads Incorrect

    The last line under the Career section says Crank That has sold more than 3 "trillion" downloads. As per the link cited [12] Crank That has only sold 3 "million" digital downloads. 3 trillion is an unrealistic number so if someone could change that as it is a glaring error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.62.120 (talk) 06:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

    This is fixed. The citation provided is sourced to a press release from Interscope records. We could use an independent source confirming this figure, and it being the highest ever. / edg ☺ ☭ 07:13, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Move to Soulja Boy Tell 'Em?

    His official name is Soulja Boy Tell 'Em. He was Soulja Boy up until he got sued, and now he's Soulja Boy Tell 'Em.

    Because of that, shouldn't we move the page to Soulja Boy Tell 'Em, with "Soulja Boy" redirecting to "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em"?

    I don't see why not. Redbull47 (talk) 15:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

    Please move page to appropriate name "Soulja Boy Tell 'Em" since it is the official name of the artist per their management, record label, etc. --WheezyF (talk) 14:30, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

    There is no way to move the page since it is move protected. Because of that, I created a redirect instead. Everyone okay with that? Rappingwonders2 (talk) 21:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
    I just reverted the redirect. The cut and paste move needs to be fixed so edits aren't lost. On another note I strongly disagree with moving the article. Souja Boy is the common name and should be used. No one calls him by his full stage name and so it shouldn't be used. A note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hip hop might garner further comments. Eóin (talk) 23:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
    But he calls himself by that. And some people like to call by that. So actually, some people do call him that. Also, so far, you're the only person that opposes the move. Rappingwonders2 (talk) 20:51, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
    Didn't know that he called himself that. I still oppose the move on the basis that majority of people refer to him as simply "Soulja Boy". On a technical note the page can be moved with an administrators help. WheezyF had the right idea. Eóin (talk) 01:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Crank & Crunk

    Hi everyone,

    I want to know, is it right that Crank is just choregraphy derivate from Crunk ? Thanks Vortesteur (talk) 21:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] certification

    I changed his RIAA certification from gold to TBA for Souljaboytellem.com. I did it because there is not listing on the RIAA search database of the album being certified gold. His only certification is a 2x platinum mastertone certification for crank that. Seth71 (talk) 15:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] An incorrect reference

    Reference 11 says "2004" but should say 2007 as in the article Jtbagwelljr (talk) 03:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


    [edit] Soulja Boy on Newgrounds

    I think it's very important to keep my edit about Soulja Boy being on Newgrounds, and I know that it is not someone impersonating him because he even advertised that he Newgrounds profile on his website.

    ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

    How is it useful? --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 03:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    Cuz it's amazing! He's probably the only celebrity on NG.

    ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

    That's seems to be an opinion. Honestly, I see no reason having it there. It's like SPAM for him. I think it shouldn't be included 'cause there's no point to it. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 03:07, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    Alright but could you AT least keep the link at the bottom the page where it says "External Links" to his Newgrounds profile? Because that's really relevant. ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    Again, how? When a reasonable answer is up, then it can remain. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 03:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    Ok, fine the reasonable answer is why do you have Soulja Boy's MySpace up there but you won't let his Newgrounds mean for god sakes he had a Newgrounds profile long before he had a MySpace, the only reason why he even has a MySpace is because every celbrity does, I'm sure Soulja Boy would love to have his Newgrounds on a Wikipedia page seeing how he always uses his Newgrounds profile cuz he changes the pictures and udates new profile posts alot. He even has new cartoons in the making.

    ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

    Other stuff exists is not a good argument for your stuff. Not every site where Soulja Boy has a public account profile is worth listing. Unsigned musicians often use MySpace to post and sell music, which makes it a standard external link for musicians, and especially relevant in Soulja Boy's biography. However, it is not desirable for an encyclopedic article to list Souja Boy's Yahoo profile (if any), or his public profiles on various forums and boards. / edg ☺ ☭ 17:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    YOU HAVE HIS GODDAMN YOUTUBE CHANNEL ON HERE FOR THA LOVE OF FUCK HE SHOULD AT-FUCKING-LEAST HAVE HIS DAMN NEWGROUNDS PROFILE... WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    If argument via WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS doesn't convince anyone, do you really think repeating same argument using ALLCAPS will get you what you want? Soulja Boy's YouTube video is significant in his biography, predating his official albums and apparently played an important part in getting him signed. You still have not made a case for your link, and it is seeming like you do not have one. / edg ☺ ☭ 20:00, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

    Sorry but that guy was just pissing me off, I am sorry for the ALL CAPS and tha typed in-cursing but he told me if I gave him a valid point of putting up Soulja Boy's Newgrounds account then it can let be, but he just tackles my fact right back, it's like he's setting me up just to make me look bad.

    I mean if Soulja Boy has a YouTube profile (I'm just assuming these videos are on his profile because i'm too lazy to check out his YouTube Channel myself) it probably has Music videos such as his smash hit Crank That with smaller unpopular stuff inbetween. And that is also for Soulja Boy's fans to see what he posts on YouTube, it's really relevant to have his NG profile on this Wiki-page because i'm sure Soulja Boy is proud of his NG profile AND accoringly his cartoons seeing how he leaves an add to his NG profile on the front page of his website.

    ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk)

    Krakerz: You were asked for a "reasonable" answer, and you still have not provided one. This Wikipedia article is not a list of things Soulja Boy is "proud" of. For something along those lines, you might want to ask Soulja Boy to link his NG profile from http://www.souljaboytellem.com .
    Please read Wikipedia's external links policy. The NG profile contains no unique information about this article's topic. In fact it contains very little information at all. There is no reason to include it on Wikipedia, other than to promote Newgrounds. It is spam. Please do not add it again. / edg ☺ ☭ 20:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


    Do what you want, I have lost this war... (-_-)...

    ~Ya Boi Krakerz~ (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Biased toward Southern rap

    Quotes like "emphasizing catchy, mindless music that discards rap's traditional emphasis on message" is a bit biased and opinionated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.41.21 (talk) 03:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

    Seems fairly neutral to me. Within WP:NPOV, how would you phrase it differently? / edg ☺ ☭ 03:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
    Seems fairly true to me. StardustDragon 22:03, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Soulja Boy as an online personality

    I'm getting the impression that prior to his music fame Soulja Boy had made himself a noticeable personality in various online forums, and some of the edits to this article are reactions to his reputation in that space. Does anyone have (reliable, non self published) sources for this? If this is an unusually important part of his image, information on his history and reputation in such circles might be worth including in the article.

    I should add that since it is normal for people SB's age to spend much time online, so that fact that SB belongs to certain sites and does stuff online is not ipso facto notable. We need a reliable source saying his presence is remarkably well-known. / edg ☺ ☭ 01:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Eazy-E

    Someone said that ?Eazy-E? helped produce Soulja Boy's albums and that Soulja Boy's first album sold more copies than Tupac Shakur's record of 75 million album sales. I find this to be B.S. Don't know who Eazy-E is though. Is he working with Soulja Boy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.218.109 (talk) 00:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

    WTF? That's complete nonsense! I don't need much explanation about this. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 00:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

    Well beside the obvious false 2Pac comment i can give you 3 reasons why Eazy-E didnt produce Soulja boy's ablbum 1.Soulja boy has stated multiple times he produced his whole album on a simple computer program at home all by himself with some minor help. 2.Eazy-E was one of the members of the legendary NWA (you may know members Ice Cube and Dr.Dre) and would never work with someone like Soulja Boy. 3.Eazy-E has been dead for over 10 years. Parralax (talk) 01:01, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] The middle name listed is wrong

    Deandre Way's middle name is Cortez and not Ramone. Can someone please edit? Thanks Digitaltemp (talk) 18:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

    Actually, the sources point at as Ramone. Not Cortez. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 18:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

    The Vh1 source listed is incorrect. If you do a google search for Deandre Cortez Way you'll see instances where it is mentioned it is his real name. I work his digital marketing project at his record label and he asked me yesterday to correct his middle name. Digitaltemp (talk) 18:48, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

    Back up this claim and we'll fix it. --Esanchez(Talk 2 me or Sign here) 18:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

    http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/archive/tags/deandre+cortez+way/default.aspx Digitaltemp (talk) 19:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

    I'm looking for an update on this - anyone? Digitaltemp (talk) 18:41, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    A random blog does not count as a citation when compared with VH1Parralax (talk) 19:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
    Try looking at Wikipedia:Reliable sources for guidelines. I do notice that there are more hits for "Deandre Cortez Way" than "Deandre Ramone Way". Eóin (talk) 19:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
    Many of those hits may be articles copying "Cortez" from this Wikipedia article, or each other. Last time I checked, the VH1 article was earlier. It may not be 100% certain, but it is a more reliable source than any number of blog mentions. / edg ☺ ☭ 19:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    So how does this get resolved? Do I need to contact Vh1 to try and get them to change that page? His middle name is in fact Cortez, and not Ramone. Digitaltemp (talk) 23:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    That article is old and unlikely to be updated. How would they have gotten "Ramone" if that is not his middle name? / edg ☺ ☭ 23:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    Beats me. One person states it wrong once and it virally spread I guess. How about referencing his myspace page? Check his bio - it states Deandre Cortez Way - http://www.myspace.com/souljaboytellem Digitaltemp (talk) 23:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

    Looking for an update on this - anyone? Digitaltemp (talk) 20:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

    That should be acceptable. Any objections to changing it to Cortez? Eóin (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
    I don't understand how it changed from Ramone to Cortez, and "Cortez" wasn't on his MySpace page 2 days ago. However, if Mr. Way makes this claim himself, it probably isn't worth disputing. I still doubt this is his birthname. / edg ☺ ☭ 21:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

    Cool - so can you change please? Digitaltemp (talk) 19:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Handguns in video!

    Soulja Boy is listed here as giving a positive vibe without the violent overtones. But when you look at his original video, the one referenced in his high-money video, he's waving handguns during his dance and pointing them into the audience! Any reasonable fan could only assume the original was the "real" version of the dance and that the one in the mass-released video was censored by a desire for money. Between the unnatural hypersexual and hyperviolent themes, there really needs to be more than one disregarded sentence of controversy. --Mrcolj (talk) 12:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Back to School?

    If this is real, put up a source.

    -Piazzajordan2

    [edit] Completely vandalised

    Somebody has gone and wiped it all, replacing it with a profane message. Maybe it should be reprotected?

    I heard he's dead. false or missing info here? 134.99.38.61 (talk) 16:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

    I heard he has aids from his life partner? I'm lost. -76.19.97.7 (talk) 20:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
    I hear several different vaguely insulting, unsourced insinuations in this article and on this Talk page every week or so. What of it? / edg ☺ ☭ 22:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

    [edit] Soulja Boy's death?

    When did Soulja Boy die? I'd edit that out... but I don't have an account, course. SOULJA BOY DID NOT DIE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.136.63 (talk) 23:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

    I wish.StardustDragon 21:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)