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[edit] Cross Downloadable Characters?

The wiki currently states that in "179 of GameInformer magazine that 'Namco was nice enough to concede that the second characters may be available for download on the respective consoles at a later date.' " I've seen a number of people have been claiming that in the newest EGM (issue #229), that Namco has stated that the characters "...are exclusive to the respective consoles, and we intend to keep them separate." Can anyone clear this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.199.116.161 (talk) 07:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Star Wars?

Wow... they are really screwed with this game. I don't know why, but each of the games in the series just become less and less impressive. We'll just have to see the final product.

That's all a matter of iscolated self opinion. Here's mine. I personally think you should replay the previous Soul Caliber's if you actually find any way in hell that they could be doing worse each new game. Phoo-ew. As a matter of fact, they're even better and more advanced than Tekken and/or Dead or Alive in the departments of: story plot, charecter design, scene design AND management, and fighting system.
Sorry, but you have the isolated opinion. The bulk of longtime SC fans have realized the decline in characters since the first designs for 3 appeared. The buyout of Bandai is only enforcing Namco's design staff's decision to make these character designs less and less era-specific and more and more for the Japanese and American youth. And do yourself a favor and replay Soul Calibur 1 and 2, then play the third entry and try saying with a straight face that the fighting system is improving. There is a reason SCIV is reverting to a modified SC2 engine, and it's not for budget purposes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.10.1 (talk) 02:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Pardon me for saying so but, I think you should try and RECOGNIZE... (pardon the speech, I'm black)ThegreatWakkorati (talk) 10:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Don't insult African Americans with your ignorant and racist comments; not all 'black' people fall into your narrow and pathetic viewpoints...--69.81.50.145 (talk) 04:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Wii version comment (Topic Ended, someone messed it up, I removed it)

Someone had started editing older posts in this discussion and messing them up after the discussion had ended. Though because it had ended it is no longer needed so I removed it since someone was messing up the posts anyway. Since people would want an explanation as to why it was deleted I figured I should leave one.

[edit] Cleaning up a bit

I edited out some assumptions from this article, like Sophitia's return and the new knight woman being a standard character (which is still uncertain). Citing sources and avoiding unbased rumors is really important in Wikipedia, people. SamSandy 06:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Great! I could not agree more. I mean come on.. assuring that strong (yet not stated sources) Imply that we are going to see characters from star wars and pirates of the carribean? Assume good faith? No... good faith and speculation is the same. Not stated, NOT ADDED.(some people seem to have trouble understanding that.193.71.156.193 18:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] the name is Soul Calibur

Not Soulcalibur. --HanzoHattori 23:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone do something about it. This is stupid. --HanzoHattori 07:45, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Not according to Electronic Gaming Monthly. Read the first paragraph of the article. King Zeal 12:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Namco has done this with other games in the series, and doesn't do much to clear up the issue, in my opinion. The logo certainly doesn't help. Even if Soulcalibur IV is the official naming, the other name may still be appropriate per WP:COMMONNAME. Just a thought. Dancter 17:16, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
The logo clearly reads "SoulCalibur" - just like the previous Soul Calibur games. (Actually, it is Soul Calibur Legends which is "Soulcalibur" by the logo featured - but the name on Wikipedia is ironically "Soul Calibur" anyway.) --HanzoHattori 08:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
So? --HanzoHattori 22:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
As I said, it was just a thought. No need to be combative. By citing WP:COMMONNAME, I was making a case for the "Soul Calibur" convention, which I thought was what you were advocating. Going by logo (which I'm not saying is definitive), it's not just Legends, but Soulcalibur III, as well. You wouldn't spell it SoulcalibuR just because the R is larger. Frequently in the trademark fine print of Namco pages, you'll see it spelled SOULCALIBUR or Soulcalibur. That was the case for Soul Calibur II. Dancter 22:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Legends is spelled "SoulcalibuR" in the logo - not SoulCalibur or SOULCALIBUR (but probably means "Soul Calibur" anyway). ANd so was the SCIII, yes. But I'm not about this - why THIS ARTICLE is still called "Soulcalibur IV"? (SIV? ScIV? I said, this is stupid.) Even while the series box says it's Soul Calibur IV. --HanzoHattori 02:34, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Every unaltered copy of the June 13 press release spells it "Soulcalibur IV". Dancter 03:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Jesus Christ. Are you going to change SCIII to "SOULCALIBUR III" too? Even Soul Calibur Legends is still SC. --HanzoHattori 09:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Just pointing out the facts. I've already expressed that that I am not opposed to the "Soul Calibur" format, but it's a bit unfair for you to characterize this issue as "stupid". Just because a user moved this article to Soulcalibur IV and Soul Calibur Legends remains as-is at the moment proves nothing either way.
There were lengthy debates on the naming of the PlayStation 3 article in light of the fact that the name is officially PLAYSTATION 3. It was still decided that "PlayStation 3" is the better place, per WP:COMMONNAME and MOS:TM.
The SOULCALIBUR format is probably just an anomaly (and even then wouldn't be appropriate for Wikipedia, per the guideline I just mentioned), but there is a legitimate case to be made that the "Soulcalibur" format may be correct. You keep insisting on that the page should be fixed on the basis that "Soul Calibur IV" is "correct", and I'm showing evidence otherwise. Nothing more. The users involved in the page moves were Clamticore and Michael Mad. You could always invite them to participate in this discussion. Dancter 17:36, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
They don't participate in this discussion because they don't want to. It's not my problem. They also changed without discussion. I'd fix it long time ago, but it's double redirect or whatever and I don't know how. I'm not Wiki-savy, I just write stuff and fix layout. Also EVERYTHING is now "Soulcalibur". Jesus. Whatever. --HanzoHattori 17:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

wow you are stressed out guys.. as for the shadow ninja especially —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.71.156.170 (talk) 20:59, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] a Wii version considered; still unlikely

I am on a school computer, so the link to this article is on GoNintendo.com, & it's blocked. But in it, look for this news & there will be a quote by Jin Okubo, producer for SCL mentioning SCIV for Wii & the circumstances to make it possible. http://gonintendo.com/?p=25462 Joey368 16:20, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

That quote didn't say anything about the prospect of bringing SCIV to Wii. A wait-and-see attitude to new consoles is unsurprising. "We're not not porting this game to Wii" is not the same as "We will probably port this game to Wii" and is not encyclopedic. White 720 18:39, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Go to 2:46 - 2:49. The bar in the bottom of the screen says: Soul Calibur IV Namco/ PS3, X360, Wii

Does this confirm that a Wii version is being made? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.251.83.69 (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Not one bit. Namco did the same thing with Beautiful Katamari, and it wound up going to ONE console. The chances of seeing this game on the Wii are slim to none, so don't get your hopes up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.10.1 (talk) 02:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. I don’t think we’ll see this game on the wii either. --DavidD4scnrt (talk) 06:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Me neither, but there's always a possibilaty...I just can't see you beating the crap out of anyone with a Wii Controller. 205.242.95.135 (talk) 22:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Playable characters

Folks, the official website has been updated with the inclusion of the characters, so it should be the number-one source for who's in and who's yet to be confirmed. Since Yoshimitsu isn't on that page (yet), I deleted his name from the list, even though I know his name has been mentioned in the article (and that he will most probably be in the game).SamSandy 21:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Good work... Some people thinks it is enough to "assume good faith" omg thats ridiculous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.71.156.170 (talk) 21:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

The Official site seems to be lagging behind in "updates" from time to time. If I remember correctly, when Yoshimitsu was originally added to the wiki, it was because he had been confirmed with at least two other characters, with actual screenshots and art, from that issue of Famitsu. The site wasn't updated with those characters for almost a week IIRC. So it is probably not in your best interest to use the official site as a be all end all for whats going on with this game. Instead you should try searching for then newest news updates and confirmations from japan. Famitsu has been a solid source of information for all of the character releases so far. 71.199.116.161 (talk) 01:59, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Yohimitsu was sometimes added to the Wikipedia article because he had been mentioned by the staff in an interview for 1up or EGM ('don't remember which one right now) months ago, but we hadn't seen him at all. No profile, no illustration, no CG model, nothing. Just a comment from some guy on the staff that implied he would be the game. He was just recently confirmed in FamiTsū (along with Talim and Rock), and added to the Japanese official site only two or three days after that (well... on the same day, officially, since the FamiTsū news broke a few days early, as usual). 88.161.129.43 (talk) 09:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Game Info-Translations

The official site has character profiles up for each of the confirmed characters, as well as what appears to be a basic plot synopsis. Would it be possible for someone to accurately translate these and include them on the page and under each respective character page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.156.98 (talk) 12:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Darth Vader and Yoda

Seriously, WTF?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.180.100.45 (talk) 23:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Evidently it's true. lol source one & source two. They have pictures. FaithLehaneTheVampireSlayer 23:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

However, it could be photoshopped by a devoted person. Unless Namco or anyone from it has confirmed it, I think we should probably take it off. Mythmonster2 (talk) 00:03, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

They were not the first to guest star in this series. So it's still plausible. FaithLehaneTheVampireSlayer 00:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
1up says they're the first to reveal this information. I'm willing to take their word for it, though confirmation from Namco would be nice. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 00:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
You can't just attribute everything to photoshoping though. For starters, finding models or screenshots in appropriate positions to photoshop in and then finding a screenshot in which they'll fit is enough of a pain without someone with a keen eye finding that one of the two elements used in the 'shopped' image are from somewhere else and point out the originals. Then there's the technical skill involved, it's hard to make something like like a CG model that looks like that. They aren't good enough to have been taken from the movies (Yoda isn't detailed enough and Darth Vader is CG instead of a man in a suit) and there aren't any recent Star Wars games with enough graphical detail to rip the models from. You'd have to alter the old in game models so that they look updated or alter the movie ones so they look like they're from a computer game. Not very many ams can make things like this from scratch, not to this level of detail either, unless they're either very accomplished or a pro. It's a lot more hassle than it's worth.
Also, there's now a video here. If you can attribute that to photoshopping, then I'll be damned. Because doing that would definitely take a shed load of image and video editing ability as well as 3D model manipulation ;) 83.100.183.200 (talk) 01:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
I edited the page since it stated in three different parts that Yoda & Vader are in. Quite unnecessary, don't you think? SamSandy (talk) 17:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Skeptical about Darth Vader and Yoda in SC4

That would have to be an anonymous, yet very accomplished Photoshop user. Weren't there complaints about some of the guest characters in Soul Calibur 2 (mostly McFarlane's creations) being out of place? Unless Namco states it, i'm not ready to believe about those Star Wars characters being in the game.

Azurada (talk) 01:28, 10 January 2008 (UTC)Azurada

Namco just stated it (albeit not it written word). Check out the trailer at soulcalibur.com. NeoChaosX (talk, walk) 02:06, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[1] Star Wars official website confirms it. 76.169.167.65 (talk) 02:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 32 Characters Confirmed?

In the recent 1UP Yours podcast, at the five minute mark where the begin discussing Soul Calibur IV, Garnett says that there were 32 character slots on the demo. Podcast link here: http://www.1up.com/do/minisite?cId=3149993 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.196.146 (talk) 23:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Makes sense. There are 25 mainstays, and 27/28 viable characters, including Hilde and Vader/Yoda (all depending on "exclusives", hello downloadable content!). Assuming all the main characters come back, and that there are no additional slots that are unlockable (ala Tekken and Smash), that leaves 4 or 5 new characters that can be announced. My money is on Amy and a random character, the other 3 are really anyones guess. Of course, this is all assuming those folks at 1UP are right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.10.1 (talk) 01:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, probably Amy, and Hwang and Li Long too. They were made part of the standard character roster in Soul Calibur III Arcade Edition, so they'll probably return for Soul Calibur IV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.251.80.22 (talk) 17:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Amy was confirmed today in a magazine scan, but that doesn't necessarily mean Hwang and Li Long are in too. We'll see... SamSandy (talk) 10:05, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
As it stands, 23 slots are taken. 9 slots left! However - Li Long, Hwang, Rock, Setsuka, Talim, Yoshimitsu have yet to be confirmed, along with the obligatory -Random- character. Assuming Li Long and Hwang aren't relegated to -Bonus Character- status again (I bet they are!), I'd say we're looking at 2 brand spanking new characters and a good deal of bonus characters for all the CAS classes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.10.1 (talk) 17:37, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Additional Character?

On the SoulCalibur Wiki, it mentions someone named Kain on the character roster. Can anyone confirm this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.20.210 (talk) 20:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like BS. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 21:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
The fact is, anybody can say "Hey, there's a guy called Kain in Soulcalibur IV", so you've got to be skeptical about these rumors. I usually go by magazine scans or official screenshots. When I see it, I believe it. SamSandy (talk) 10:04, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Character List

Okay, so why was the list of confirmed characters removed? I know it's somewhat repetitive with the text section (which is there for the sources), but it also serves those who want a quick check on who's in and who's not yet (something which is much more difficult to see from the text). It's all temporary, anyway, until we have the final roster confirmed... I wish such radical changes would be discussed here more. 19:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

My mistake, I missed the fact they were all referenced in the preceding paragraph. However, I removed the JP link as only the English language version of official sites should be included. Thanks. Fin©™ 19:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is that? Does it state that in one of Wikipedia's cazillion rules? XD The Japanese website has much more extensive coverage of the game than the English site, even though the text isn't understandable to most people. There are all those pretty pictures to see, nevertheless! SamSandy (talk) 20:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The fact that's it's not understandable to most people should be reason enough! It states in the videogame article guidelines Only the English version of the page should be included if there are multiple languages.. Fin©™ 21:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page Titles

This is being a little picky, but I've noticed that a lot of the character pages list the characters name with (Soul Calibur) afterwards, when the correct title of the game is Soulcalibur, as one word. The main game pages seem to have this correct but most of the subpages don't. Was this done on purpose, or should it be fixed? I just wanted to check with you guys before editing things. WinterSnowblind (talk) 23:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I say go ahead and make the change. A lot of these pages were made before the name change, and we've been too lazy/busy to change them. King Zeal (talk) 00:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The story of SC4 is based on -???- ending

In SC3, each character had 2 different endings with some inputs. Pressing gives you good endings and vice versa. Here in SC4, what is it's story based on? It would seem weird as, if everyone got a good ending, Nighty and Siegfried would be fighting X number of times until a Time Paradox happens.

Example, Zasalamel used Soul calibur and Soul edge to remove his curse, making the 2 swords dissappear. But 1 hour later, Kilik breaks Soul edge while Maxi holds on to it. Snake, what have you done, you've changed the future, you've created a time paradox.

Anyway, I'll search on that story later. Moogle 12 (talk) 12:57, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be based on any ending in particular, really... Where was the Soul Edge ending that had Sophitia destroying the female Soul Edge, and Taki killing Cervantes before letting Siegfried take care of the rest? Exactly. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 23:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


Ok here now update. Since Maxi is in SC4, that means Soul Edge got destroyed. So, example Zasalamel still has the eternal life curse and so on like Taki really didnt kill Cervantes. But anyway, lets just wait until that game comes out. Moogle 12 (talk) 15:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Soul Edge is still around, and in better shape than ever, actually (I don't know how you came to the conclusion it got destroyed simply based on Maxi being in the new game), Zasalamel is still alive but he doesn't consider that a curse anymore, and Taki did kill Cervantes back in Soul Edge (even if he didn't stay dead for long). 88.161.129.43 (talk) 01:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


Ohh, that's me and my crazy mind! XD Moogle 12 (talk) 09:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, using 3rd party translator programs on the Japanese SCIV page, (and this is pretty sketchy) it seems Siegfried and Nightmare fought (while Taki watched from a distance), as they fought, the power of Soul Calibur and Soul Edge rose together until they reached breaking point, and did so. Soul Calibur then became bonded to Siegfried (hence the new armour), while Nightmare's power become to much for his faux body to handle, which began collapsing under the weight of it's corruption. Both fled. In the meantime, Cervantes tracked down Ivy and they fought. During the fight, Cervantes managed to (somehow) damage Ivy's soul, and left her for dead. However, Ivy managed to combine what was left of her own soul along with the remnant soul that dwelt within Ivy Blade (the life Nightmare had originally given it). The majority of other characters' seem to just state that they want to destroy Soul Edge (and a couple Soul Calibur along with it),and that "it will all end at Ostrheinsburg Castle".60.241.68.44 (talk) 09:42, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The soul Ivy is currently using is actually an artficial soul she was working on. She was planning on creating a homunculus in order to wield Soul Calibur (as she can't do so herself, cursed blood and all), but with her own soul devoured by Cervantes, she had to change her plans and use the homunculus soul on herself instead.
The backstories are actually a fun read, what with their mentions of obscure characters such as Salia, Edgardo, Miser and Greed... 88.161.129.43 (talk) 18:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I get it now! Now what was that website you went to (the Japanese SCIV page), cause if it isn't in the External Links, then I'll place it. Moogle 12 (talk) 06:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

It was http://www.soularchive.jp/SC4/character/index.html to be specific, soularchive.jp had been in the external links for a long time but then for some reason someone took it down. 60.241.68.44 (talk) 06:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

Why the hell are Scheherazade and Angol Fear redirected to Soulcalibur IV? Tekken-EX (talk) 00:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, but they should be either their own articles or part of a list of SoulCalibur characters. A redirect seems unnecessary here. Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 03:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
It's because wusses think "they're not important enough to have pages". It's a load of crap and now my picture of scheherazade is going to be deleted. Hobocrow (talk) 04:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
You can always make a profile for her and Angol Fear in the 'List of minor Soul series characters' section. Clamticore (talk) 08:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Then if that's the case then so should all the other bonus character articles. Tekken-EX (talk) 10:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Somebody go do that then cause I definitely don't know how. Make sure to find pictures for all the bonus characters too, cause I was just there and they're all gone. Wikipedia needs to stop deleting stuff they don't think is important, it's not like they run out of room. Hobocrow (talk) 20:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
What I just said was sarcastic. Tekken-EX (talk) 07:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia itself doesn't delete anything, it's the people using it doing that. There was a discussion about deleting Scheherazade's page since it didn't have enough substance in it. I tried to argue back that the page would get additional content in the coming months, but the reception was to make the page after there's something to write about. Some users really are quite uptight in holding up the quality standards. In my opinion that kind of attitude will only drive away newer users. SamSandy (talk) 10:12, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Soulcalibur IV boxart

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I already uploaded it before I thought if it could have been fan made. A lot of sites are using it (even Amazon and GameStop) and some sites even say it's official. What do you guys think?

The Ivy-artwork in the PS3 boxart is from SC III, not IV. That alone gets me convinced that both of the boxarts are fake. Not to mention that they're both quite simplistic. I'd imagine Namco would put a little more effort to the boxes. SamSandy (talk) 10:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know whether or not this is valid conformation for some of the boxarts out there, but on the SC4 website they show ivy, nightmare and Darth vader around soul edge like the boxart that gamestop has for the game.Shaq4evr (talk) 13:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wait wait wait wait...the Wii?!?!

The American Soul Calibur IV website has the Wii logo at the bottom. Does that mean this thing's going to be ported to the Wii?!?! I haven't heard anything about this, so it must not be the case. 24.30.148.181 (talk) 12:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

The game is not coming to Wii. The logo must be there because of Soulcalibur Legends. SamSandy (talk) 10:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
SamSandy is right it's only there because the website is not only for SCIV but also SC legends. Hobocrow (talk) 20:01, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I just checked the website and nowhere, i repeat, nowhere, did it say that the site is also for Soul Calibur Legends. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.70.56 (talk) 02:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Check the fine print (emphasis mine): "SOULCALIBUR® IV & ©1995-2008 NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc. SOULCALIBUR Legends™ & ©1995-2008 NAMCO BANDAI Games Inc. © KOSUKE FUJISHIMA ALL RIGHTS RESERVED." 88.161.129.43 (talk) 16:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Angol Fear or Fia Angol

Somebody changed Angol's name in the characters paragraph from Angol Fear to Fia Angol. I want to see their proof because everywhere else I go to says that the name is Angol Fear. The person has 5 days to show me their proof otherwise I shall be changing it back. Hobocrow (talk) 16:05, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

5 bucks says it's the phonetic name in Japanese. Go ahead and change it back, I say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.10.1 (talk) 18:14, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Her phonetic name would be "Angoru Fia". "Fia Angol" is nonsense, really. And yes, the name is apparently supposed to be spelled "Angol Fear" in alphabet. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 18:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Well since everyone's in agreement and it's already changed back I guess this topic is dead. Hobocrow (talk) 00:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Where was it confirmed to be spelled as "Fear" though? In SGT Frog, there hasn't been a source I've seen that translates Angol Tia's name as Angol Tear, so I don't get why this is different. 128.6.30.198 (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
It was spelled as "Angol Fear" in FamiTsū. 88.161.129.43 (talk) 22:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
It's spelled "Angol Fear" evrywhere that has info on SCIV. So, this topic doesn't need any more comments. Thank you. Hobocrow (talk) 02:34, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Yoshimitsu confirmed

The creators say in this interview "look forward to a completely different Yoshimitsu", thus confirming him for the game http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=2&cId=3162887 —Preceding unsigned comment added by MZero17 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The developers have been giving hints about several characters, but for clarity's sake, this page should only contain characters that have been revealed to the public in pictures. SamSandy (talk) 16:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
And for the love of life, you don't have to list every single character who's been in the series but who's not yet revealed as playable. One can logically deduce that if some character has not yet been mentioned in the list, that character isn't confirmed yet. SamSandy (talk) 18:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Well he's confirmed now. Hobocrow (talk) 23:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Character section clean-up

I removed the text in the Characters section that depicted when each character was revealed, since it got too massive, too cluttery and too pointless. The references are still there, if someone's in doubt. SamSandy (talk) 13:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More perverted than the previous games of the series

In my opinon it should be mentioned in this article, that the costumes of most female characters are showing more skin then in the previous Soul Calibur games (Also body proportions of some characters changed (e.g. Ivy) . And i´s not an unimportant thing as I read about this in multiple websites (Some people seem to like that and some not). Atomsturm (talk) 14:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Source those websites and, if those sources check out, you've got a deal. King Zeal (talk) 15:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
That's original research if I've ever seen one. Most of the "pervertedness" is subjective, different people see it in a different way, thus it cannot be acclaimed as the truth. As for the body proportions, they look absurd in some of the artwork, but the character models in the screenshots are pretty realistically shaped. So I personally don't think there's enough base for this to deserve a mention.SamSandy (talk) 06:37, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, the semantical debate over what's "perverted" aside, if there are links that discuss the increased sexuality of the games' characters, I don't see how that's original research. King Zeal (talk) 12:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Ha ha! OK, I guess that closes this particular discussion... ^^; 88.161.129.43 (talk) 01:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
To King Zeal: if the links direct to message board discussions with topics like "Ivy is a slut!!" or "OMG i c bewbs!!!1", then I'd call that blatant original research. If however the sources were about respectable game industry experts discussing the subject, it would be a different matter. I just haven't seen that type of discussions anywhere (the first type I've seen plenty, though). SamSandy (talk) 07:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
I sort of agree with SamSandy, most of these comments about SC4 are just from random websites that aren't really recognized in the gaming world.Shaq4evr (talk) 16:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cloud and Ryu?

I seriously doubt they are in the game, unless someone can give me a refrence, I'm calling fake —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.164.0 (talk) 18:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, i think they're fake too, just like how some think that the guy from god of war is in the game too. Until there is valid conformation from Namco or famitsu(where most of the characters are revealed) then we shouldn't add them.Shaq4evr (talk) 19:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unknown Male Character

Don't delete him! He is legit. I've even seen him in a trailer. 24.23.227.168 (talk) 13:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Were may I ask? Samurai Cerberus (talk) 14:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I´ve seen him, too. here the new character can be seen, seems to be a boss: http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_7324_en.html Atomsturm (talk) 17:27, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

He does not belong in this article as a listed character until he gets a name and is specified as an actual character not a permutation. Furthermore, the character introduction says that there have been 31 confirmed characters but lists 32 (the 32nd being this unknown character). I would suggest mentioning him in the text as a mysterious character that little is known about. This is listed as a character "Unknown male character shown in Ubidays trailer." This is incorrect Ubidays is only for Ubisoft games. Soul Calibur is developed by Namco Bandai. This needs to be fixed.24.209.242.49 (talk) 01:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Everywhere I've seen the trailer hosted, including reputable sites like Gametrailers and Gamersyde, it has been listed as the "Ubidays 2008 Trailer" or "Ubidays 2008: Trancendance Trailer." So evidently the new screens and trailers were released at Ubidays. http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3168008 has the info as to why it was shown there, "...and Namco's Soul Calibur IV (which Ubisoft is publishing in Europe)." 20:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Would someone with more experience mind making a decision on whether or not to keep the unknown guy on there for now? The article that references his current name (Mars or Soul Edge Reborn) seems to be little more than rumor milling. 161.38.231.5 (talk) 19:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

No don't put the unknown character there for now until we have a name and a picture. Once we have that the person who keeps adding will have the right to add him/her again.--Lbrun12415 19:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

If it's the trailer I saw, it's the Apprentice, from Star Wars: Force Unleashed. (logged in, fixed sig)Tenraixtreme (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not the trailer from reference 14, but Gamespot just revealed that The Apprentice is, indeed, in the game, He wields his red lightsaber backwards mostly as he fights. If I can find the trailer itself, I'll link it. Tenraixtreme (talk) 00:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Got it: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/soulcaliburiv/news.html?sid=6192140 Tenraixtreme (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not the apprentice we're talking about Tenraixtreme. We're talking about the guy in this trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV_CULpF6AY Hobocrow (talk) 04:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Starkiller

Could this Starkiller be a Bonus character for a light-saber style? Smurai Cerberus 12:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It's very possible, but until Namco confirms/denies anything, all you can do is speculate. With as in-depth as they are going with the Bonus Characters this time around (as opposed to the laughable bonus characters from SC3), it wouldn't be too far fetched. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.10.1 (talk) 23:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I liked the Shop girls. Smurai Cerberus 02:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Character customisations

Has it been confirmed whether customisations are only for new created characters or whether each character can be customised as with the other fighting games VF and Tekken? I would hope that the game follows the same path as the rest and introduces specific customisations for each of the normal characers. I'm sure I read on here before that characters can be customised but it has since been removed - making me wonder if it has been confirmed that you can only customise the garbage create-a-souls 86.141.141.178 (talk) 19:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Star Killer...another new character

I was just watching the new trailer for SCIV and Darth Vader's new apprentice featured in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed will play a huge part in the new SCIV.Gears Of War 00:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)