Talk:Sophist (dialogue)

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[edit] Why not Socrates?

From the article: "Plato probably replaces Socrates with the Visitor from Elea, because he plans to criticize Parmenides’ notion that ‘we cannot speak or think of what is not’, in order to distinguish the negation of the being from the not-being, and define the right and the false opinion."

A quick mention as to why Socrates wouldn't criticize Pamenides notion would be useful here, such as a reference to an earlier dialogue where Socrates agrees with Parmenides' notion. - Ravenous 02:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference to the Parmenides

Thanks a lot, I have already put a refence to the earlier dialogue Parmenides - Nikolaos Bakalis 09:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what i know about sophist is ... !

Sophist derivative from a Greek word which is sophistes and sometimes you can find it in a different form which is sophos and both words means “the wise man" or "the teacher of knowledge". With a passage of time new type of teachers started to appear in Athena and the people of Athena started to call them "sophistes/sophos" some of them were from Athena and some of them were from other cities. They started to teach people in exchange of money which is never happened in Athena. Teachers in Athena before that time and even after was teaching for free. Those new teachers were teaching the youths how to be a moral person and they started also to teach them how to be better!!! And how to be a politician and how to improve their skills for how to run a country. The most famous things about those teachers "sophistes/sophos” are they were teaching how to play on words and how to have the power of convince and the clever use of reasons to make the strong excuses weak and the weak excuses strong. Teaching how to have oratory skills that will make them well-informed of the art of making public speeches plus to have rhetoric skills. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were against them because they think that sophistes are deceiving people and they don't teach them useful things plus they are spoiling youth’s brains.

if i'm wrong please correct me !