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Silver's VA

Now this is bugging me. Why do people keep on insisting that Pete Capella is doing the acting for Silver? Even if he was correct at doing the voicing in the trailer (which I highly doubt it's the case), he's NOT Silver's voice actor. It was confirmed a long time ago that the role as the voice actor for Silver is STILL BEING CAST! This means that Silver won't be voiced by Pete Capella in the final game, even if he DID do Silver's voice in the trailer. Now, Sonic, Shadow, Eggman, and Elise are one thing. We already know who voices Sonic and Shadow for 4Kids, and mostlikely he'll be returning to voice Shadow, too. We can easily confirm that he voices Sonic. Eggman is also obviously by Mike Pollock. Elise is somewhat different, as she is debuting here, but she sounds a lot like Blaze, and Blaze was by Bella Hudson. However, if Silver's role is still being cast, then his voice from the E3 trailers are irrelevent. Pete Capella COULD have voiced Silver in the trailer (though, personally, I think he sounds too much like Jason Griffith), but that isn't his final voice, so it's irrelevent WHO voiced him in the trailers. --Ultima 22:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

The same post that said Silver's voice is still being cast was the same Sonic Stadium post with all that speculatory information that, need I remind you, has been deleted. I never really believed the Sonic Stadium post (as I mentioned back when it was first posted), so Silver's voice probably HAS been cast, and Pete Capella (Caplan, whatever) has said on his Myspace he would voice Silver. BlazeHedgehog 01:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Getting into the mix, one of Junichi's journal entrys suggust he'll be voicing him in the Japanese version. I only put this in rumour for now, as it's just being suggusted from his post. I'll let whoever decides on the information whether or not to keep it. Mendinso
Well that's interesting. I'd rather believe a known Sonic Team character than some random guy with crap posting whom claims to voice a character that sounds more like Jason Griffith than anyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if Junichi is voicing Silver. Isn't Sonic voiced by him? That's what I thought. Back to Blaze--I don't believe that the information was wrong, and nor do I believe that Pete Capella was telling the truth. I know that famous people often use MySpace. Even Jun Senoue has one! However, the first thing that gives him away is his posting skills. He posts like a godforsaken n00b! Second, Silver just sounds way to much like Shadow, and it's almost clearly obvious that Shadow will be voiced by Jason Griffith in this game. However, he also sounds like Jason Griffith in general. If Pete's right, then he must have a pretty good Jason Griffith imitation. Unlike Xen0, though, I won't fight with you. Keep it up if you want--I simply don't buy it. As for the Sonic Stadium article, if it truly was incorrect, more and likely they would've said something about it. My guess is that Sonic News removed it because Sonic Team asked... no, TOLD them to, for revealing spoiler information. Right now, all I ask of you is that you buy into the 'possibility' that Pete Capella really was lying. I personally believe that he was, but I'm not denying the fact that he could be telling the truth. Sorry if I made you upset--I never meant to. I myself am, regrettable, starting to doubt that the information was inaccurate myself, but I keep on holding on to the hope that it was. --Ultima 14:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Rosxs 16 July- I can't remeber where I heard it but the voice on the trailer was confirmed not to be the final voice over. I don't know why you are all getting so worked up! Anyway, in the trailer he only said like two lines!!!

In the trailer, if you notice, unlike other Sonic games in the past, the words they say and the words that are written as subtittles aren't the same in some parts. Usually the written words at the bottom are the exact same words that come out of the characters mouth. Like when Eggman talks it's different. Though I saw a vidoe for Sonic Wildfire and when Sonic finally spoke it was Jason Griffin doing his voice (DUH!) and it sounded a lot better so I'm thinking Sonic 2006's voices (even though done by 4kids VAs) will be better. Eggman sounded better in the trailer, more serious, kinda. He usually sounds to silly. That's why I liked Eggman's voice best in Sonic Adventure 2. He sounded cool. Axidous 16, July 2006

Rosxs 6/8/06- They don't normally read the same thing. I've seen loads of faults... I just can't bring any to mind! lol I can't remember what he sounded like in SA2. I should go play that game, it was good!


Pete Capella is the voice. I happen to know him personally, and he did all the lines.

I know him personally and he's not that personal so it's not really "personally" for me OR you if you're telling the truth. But when I say peronally I don't mean personal just in person and I don't know who you are or know anyone he knows besindes me and Sam who use Wikipedia. You can't know him cause that'd mean you'd know me too. Bet you don't know my name. Pete, Sam, and a person who doesn't come here named Gloria and some others know my name on Wikipedia, so if you know him you should recognize the name Axidous and know my real name. So tell me, who am I? Axidous 4 Sept 2006

Do I have to know you to know him? I do Improv with him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.27.191 (talk • contribs)

It does not matter. Your notion is not credible. We can't believe you. So, we wait till Sega confirms it (if they haven't already). So, please just shut up about you knowing him. No one can honestly take you seriously. UnDeRsCoRe 23:44, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be credible. If I was trying to be credible, I'd be changing the regular wikipedia page. Im' just simply posting this here. And way to realize it obviously has been confirmed because he's under the confirmed voice actors.

Crystalline Hedgehog

This sounds interesting, but I haven't seen anything about it yet. I checked the History and your statement is reasonable, but can anyone show me this hedgehog? I haven't seen him/her yet, and a confirmation would be nice. --Ultima 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Woah, never mind. Apparently this was really recent. I managed to find the info on The Sonic Stadium, now. So, any speculations on what he's about? Might as well since I already posted this here. --Ultima 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, really really recent. The screens just dropped today, I think. Who knows. So far, the "Fourth Hedgehog, Crystalline in appearance" seems to be somewhat correct. Although, it might be better to wait for a close-up before we truly say it's crystalline. Whether or not it's Silver's Mentor remains to be seen. I'm more interested in what those shots mean for Shadow's gameplay; they almost seem to imply melee attacks - like, hand-to-hand combat. BlazeHedgehog 21:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget the Chaos Powers: Chaos Blast, and possibly Chaos Spear (the yellow ball Shadow holds once). I'm curious as to what others will appear. As for the new hedgehog's energy ball, that looks like Shadow's Level 3 attack in Sonic Riders, Chaos Control, though black/dark blu-ish instead of normal blue. --Ultima 13:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
It looks like photoshop mischeif to me...The new hog looks astoundingly like Shadow.86.140.62.175 22:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, Photoshop mischief that was distributed by Sega and posted on over a dozen gaming websites. BlazeHedgehog 22:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
A simple "you're wrong" would have sufficed.No need to try and make me look like an idiotCenturion Ry 13:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Even if it was fake though, I'm sure that not all the fake pics are done with Photoshop. Man, this world's so bad that now you can't trust anything even if it is true or real. Axidous 10, August 2006

How do we even know it's a hedgehog? Looks more like a posessed version of Blaze or something - maybe Anti-Blaze? It would explain the use of lightning instead of fire... I.M.Fearless 23:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, how is lightning opposite of fire? Especially since lightning can cause fires. How does it looka anything like Blaze? Blaze is a cat and wears clothes. Remember? It looks like Shadow. His face, in different colors though, looks like the design used for Shadow's from SA2. Look at the hair, the eyes, and the ears. Doesn't look like Blaze to me. Axidous 13, August 2006

Not to burst the "OMG new hedgehog" bubble, but that screenshot is from a developing multiplayer mode. Two Shadows have been put against eachother; one glowing blue and the other red, for identification. Hope this helps -Power Slave 04:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, like Shadow flies and launches off giant bubbles, in a ONE-SCREEN screenshot. In multiplayer modes, screens are almost always SPLIT. Unless your post was some sort of joke, you are officially an idiot. Also, the hedgehog clearly has crystal hands and feet, and Shadow is clearly seen launching Chaos Blast in one screen (or at least the starting of letting it off). In addition, not all the screens are of Shadow glowing red. Also, what about all the small, flying creatures? It is clearly a BOSS battle, against a NEW hedgehog--not a two-player match containing two Shadow's. --Ultima 21:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

lol!!!!! Like this guy knows squat about that hedgehog. I'll admit I see pointy spike hands and feet, but that's the ONLY resemblance to him and the Black Arms to me besides he's black and has stripes, doesn't look that crystallin but could be possible. Now we still don't know that they're against each other. Look, if so, then it's probably like in Sonic Heroes, where he just sits floating aroung the outside while his soldiers take on the player, seen as "Robot Carnival and "Robot Storm". But it could be a team thing whee you play Shadow fighting the freaks while the new guy is played by the CPU as your partner to also fight the freaks, or like in Shadow the Hedgehog whee it's a level and the new guy could be a hologram Shaodw has to follow. Just because the dude looks evil or he's in the same room with another character or both doesn't mean he really is evil. Looks can be deceiving. No one knows ANYTHING abou him except what he looks like in the screenshots. No story on him yet, no voice, no motion to TRUELY see what's going on, we can't even be sure it's a male. Even if it was 2-p battle mode, they don't need to have different colors to depict them apart. They stopped that a long time ago and in Shadow the Hedgehog you could choose the same color because the other colors were actually different characters. One was an android as seen everywhere else, the other was O-dash (or however it's spelled, is Shadow in reverse as his true revealed twin), four where actual robots that were black (mostly seen as silver depending on the angles) and other colored stripes with infinate ammoed guns for right hands. If it was 2-p mode then new guy would sill be new guy. Axidous 4 Sept 2006

Princess Elise's VA

In the article, Bella Hudson is said to be confirmed as the voice actress for Princess Elise. I watched the trailer and heard her voice; to me, it sounds more like Veronica Taylor because she sounds almost identical to Deila Ketchum from the Pokémon anime, and I know she's voiced by Veronica Taylor. There's also no citation for where it's says that Bella Hudson voices her. Can someone confirm that Bella Hudson is going to voice Elise with a source? Posted 13:12 August 7th, 2006 -Anonymous

There's nothing that states anything about her being voiced by either Bella Hudson or Veronica Taylor. It's all speculation. As to the reasoning why it mentions Bella Hudson--it's because people thing she sounds like Blaze (me included), and it's CONFIRMED that Blaze is voiced by Bella Hudson. That's why it says Bella Hudson. Truly, only Sonic and Eggman should be down for confirmed voices. Pete Capella hasn't been confirmed by an official source. The only reasons why Amy and Shadow are listed as confirmed is because the cast is thought to be remaining as the 4Kids voice actors, and that's whom voiced them in previous games (post-Sonic Heroes). None of them (Shadow, Amy, Silver, and Elise) should be put up as confirmed, but they are anyway. (P.S. If you're wondering about Sonic and Eggman--it's because they clearly are voiced by the same actors by their voices.) --Ultima 01:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/data/929717.html

It says Princess Elise was voiced by Veronica Taylor here... Kyarorain 11:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt0778849/

And here as well. With two sources saying Veronica Taylor and the fact Elise sounds like Delia Ketchum, whom Veronica Taylor voices, I think I should change it. Kyarorain 19:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Yet neither source is reliable. Know what I think? I think we should drop all from the list of 'Confirmed' voice actors (except for Eggman) until we actually get a confirmation. We don't even know if Silver is staying with the same voice actor. For Elise, we can't truly tell who she's voiced by. Neither Sonic nor Shadow have spoken, yet, either (Sonic had a quote in the Sonic Wild Fire trailer, but it could've easily been used from Sonic Riders). --Ultima 17:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Elise playable?

http://www.theghz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1738&start=78

“ Also, for some reason, they've decided to include a sort of dating sim. You control Elisa like a normal character. However, depending on how you play through the levels, you'll meet different characters. You then get these training sessions where you can learn one the characters ablities. Apparently you'll have a lot of choice. So you could train Elisa to have the speed of Sonic and the psychic powers of Silver. Depending on how you play through her story will effect who Elisa confesses her love to.

Basicly, Emerl is back...

 ”

Obviously, a forum post is not a reasonable enough source to add anything to the article - but, assuming this is true (this insider has been correct about many other things before official announcements were made), keep your eyes open for any big gaming sites saying the same thing. --Shadow Hog 14:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Cheez, I hope that's not true. That sounds so badly like Sonic Team has lost their minds again. Personally, I think the spelling errors confirm its falsity. I.M.Fearless 23:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Despite it being a known reliable source, this sounds completely false. It doesn't sound like something Sonic Team would do. Unless, of course, her special emerald allows her to do this--but I still highly doubt this is the case. --Ultima 02:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Not to mention they reffered to Elise as "Elisa" UnDeRsCoRe 02:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Had anybody read the topic further, about a page later he admits that was just a joke. BlazeHedgehog 04:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Shadow vs Crystalline Hedgehog

How do we know he's fighting the new hedgehog. It doesn't show them fighting each other. It just shows Shadow fighting off some creatures and the 4th guy floating above. The 4th guy could be evil and fighting him, or he could be leading the creatures. But he could also be helping Shadow fight them by attacking them from above. He could just be sitting there. But Sonic is back as the main character, not Shaodw, so if it was a picture of someone fighting the main mystery of the story wouldn't it be Sonic? He's new and may have something related to Silver's arrival. Silver's a good guy. What if he's this "fusion" of Sonic and Shadow? Though not likely. A clone of Shadow is unlikey because all the clones already knew they were fake and just caried out orders without toughts and wouldn't be so powerful to not only defeat Eggman but the original Shadow as well. Also an obvious DUH from Sonic Heroes to Shadow the Hedgehog. He wonders but the other clones are like uuuuuuuhhhhhh.... blank. Axidous 15, August 2006

This is the kind of stuff we can't answer because we don't know all the information about the game or it's neew characters, all we can go on is what's in the screenshots. -Sukecchi 23:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

In the writting under the screenshot its says a battle between the 4th hedgehog and Shadow. It shouldn't say that unless we actually know they're against each other. What will fans think? At least if they see the pic but not saying they're fighting the fans can come up with their own opinion of what they think instead of it saying they're fighting and fans automatically beleive that them being against each other is a confirmed fact. I'd change the writtng but I don't remember how. Axidous 16, August 2006

what if is that sonic transforming in an evil superform? Silver says that he comes back from the future to stop the ibblis trigger or best known as sonic, from making a catastrophe or destroy the world i think..... Well what if is that sonic becoming evil???? solidsonic

Good story, only one problem. In this game it's obvious that Sonic's the main star. Well the star always ends up the main playable fighting hero at the end. You can't fight Sonic and play him at the same time unless they clone him too and the clone becomes evil, but the ending fights for Sonic games all over is with little hero vs giant villain. Perfect Chaos, Finalhazard, Metal Overlord, Devil Doom, Babylon Gaurdian. Yuo get it. And you can't play as sonic as evil at the end unless it's the end of the story but before an unlockable "Last" story. If you do it would mean if you beat it then the game end with evil winning and that means the game has no point cause you could lose anywhere in the game and that could be it but it starts you over with extra live to keep trying until you (the good guy) wins. In Sa2, the dark story you had to win as evil but in the cut scene right after the battles it shows an unfinished battle almost as a tie like Tails vs Eggman 1, Sonic vs Shadow 1, Knuckles vs Rouge. In the end both a hero and dark member are fighting for good. So Sonic would probably turn evil in the middle of the story and turn back by the end if he turns evil at all. Like in other games you'd probably end up automatically switching to a different character to help him, like in Sa2 or Sonic Riders. If so then at least that would be the opening of playing as other characters such as Tails and Knuckles. If so, they'd better show Tails without the plane and without weak crappy controls and moves. He was cool in Riders, face looked weird though. I nkow at least two things that are at least 90% positive to show up (not 100 cause I could be wrong and no one's 100 percent sure of anything). But these two things will at least show up once in the game. Omochao and the Tornado 2. Axidous 2 Sept 2006

Continuity Section

Is this really needed? I thought the entire reason they were naming it simply, "Sonic the Hedgehog" was because it was a total franchise reboot - no speculation to be had. Most early information from TGS2k5 even confirms this. I think it should be gotten rid of. BlazeHedgehog 19:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Incorrect. NOTHING has been stated about a franchise reboot. Yuji Naka's claim was refering to how the game plays. It was being 'reinvented' back to its original state before such games like Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Sonic Riders. Actually, there are more hints AGAINST a reboot than there are for it. Appearances of what appear to be possible GUN robots have been seen multiple times. Then there's the information by OneClassyBloke, with pieces being proven accurate over time. It's safe to assume that it is NOT a franchise reboot. The 'Continuity' section can remain to explain the different possibilities of what may have been referring to. As for the title, it's merely a tribute to the original game. That's all. --Ultima 20:46, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Ah, but do you KNOW it's simply gameplay-only - Or are you just speculating? Why the sudden and complete deviation of pretty much EVERYTHING from even the Dreamcast games in terms of plot? Why the mention of only a SINGLE Chaos Emerald instead of all seven? How is it that suddenly, this one-and-only Chaos Emerald is the secret to the Flames of Disaster? Despite some similarities to the Sonic Adventure games in terms of style (taking place in a realistic world), this new direction for Sonic is also vastly different thematically from the Sonic Adventure titles. You say there's a ton of hints that it takes place in the current continuity when I seem to have factual evidence on my side that it, infact, does not. Just because it's a franchise reboot doesn't mean Amy can't appear, or Tails can't appear, they could simply write that off as, "Oh, well, they're Sonic friends and they've always been there" - they don't HAVE to re-introduce every single character one-by-one all over again. BlazeHedgehog 06:28, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
For those who are unclear on the subject this discussion is a really good example of why I put the section in the first place. Almost all the fan discussion of the game seems to indicate that the game is not a reboot, on the other hand there are some fans (including me) who believe otherwise as well as some game review sites. That's why I added the section.
As you've both proven there's not straight up proof for either side. You can assume one thing or another but that doesn't mean you're right. I chose not to assume and list the evidence for either side of the argument as evidence, letting the reader decide with an informed POV. Hope that clears things up. Nivenus 07:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

If they were going to make a reboot, it seems like it would be so much of a REboot. It seems like they'd forget the past and just make a new style for the future. But Even though they don't have to introduce every character all over again, they would have to introduce Knuckles and Shadow again for their personality is based on how they all met, or they'd just change their personalities (meaning probably different voice actors. They've already recreated Rouge's personality.

Ever think that maybe the one emerald thing may just be that it can be any emerald but they only need one and that's the one she happened to have, or that because it's green like and actual emerald and the master emerald that there is some connection to why that is and why it's the one needed? I don't think it's a reboot

Sonic seems to be really use to saving the world when it doesn't need saving if he's that good on his first time saving them again. GUN and Shadow are connected and if they're both in the game then it must have a connection to the SA2 and ShTH series. Now Shadow's is just another character who just happens to be a dark hero and is considered a rival to Sonic only because of their abilities, though Shadow's personality doesn't stryke me as a rival type along with the fact that I have yet to see him act like a rival besides the game Sonic Rivals. Sonic and Knuckles don't act like rivals either because, first of all, Sonic doesn't seem to care as the others are the ones challenging him (in exception to Sonic OVA), and Knuckles is the one who just gets annoyed by Sonic sometimes. That's what's starting the fights between them from what I',ve seen, not rivalry. Knuckles hasn't tried to prove himself the fastest thing alive like Jet did. Now "Jet" is a rival.

Also, the story is realy clear and easy to follow, only their are sertain details that don't make since, but thy mainly seem like somehing that a seperate writter would've put because they didn't STUDY the entire series. I've also seen simialr connections between all the "UNIVERSES" (besides they comic). They said Sonia and Manic were created in the English version, BUT they were created in Japanese, so they're are official parting characters. You don't know a person your whole life sometimes, so what. If they reboot now, it will mess things up, unless they just write it to replace after Sonic Heroes saying Shadow now gets info on his past a different way, and maybe Jet as a character in Sonic Rivals as an unmention declaration from Sega, keep it the same since it has no connection to ANY of the past games, but maybe soon Nights will cross over as a Sonic character after all these years he's been out of gaming yet showed up in Sonic so many times.

Ahem. I'm not denying it right away or anything but I'd like to know (by anyone who thinks so) why you think it would be a reboot, beside the fact that some websites including reliable ones said so. Axidous 23 Aaugust 2006

If our latest pack of leaked info can be validated (see 'Random Revelations'), then this is completely useless, anyway. According to the info that popped up, the game is NOT a series reboot. As I stated below, though, it cannot be confirmed. --Ultima 14:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Random Revelations

Apparently, our "inside sources" have been busy recently. Not much major stuff, just some minor info. Please note that Mephiles HAS been confirmed to be the fourth hedgehog's name. The other stuff is left for speculation, which I will merely list here. This info was revealed by no specific source. Some was revealed by multiple ones. Most of the info came from The Sonic Stadium's Sonic the Hedgehog Next-Gen topic.

  1. Mephiles is the name of the fourth hedgehog. (Also called Mephililes by some. I'm not sure which is correct.)
  2. This game is NOT a reboot to the series.
  3. ALL the game's music (levels, bosses, events, etc.) will be orchestrated.
  4. Plans have been made for downloadable content.
  5. Apparently, Silver is the son of someone, but it isn't known who.
  6. Silver's parent(s) are NOT any of the original characters.
  7. Mephiles plays a crucial role in the story. (E.g. He's not some random person Shadow fights.)
  8. Neither Fang nor Chao Gardens will appear.

I hope this helps. Again, except for the first piece of info, NONE of it is confirmed. I figured I'd post it, anyway. --Ultima 23:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Here, I provided a source link for the Mephil(il)es confirmation. The one I listed in the main article (before it was removed) was to the third confirmation, and the third source. Here is another link which revealed the two previous sources in one post. Tweaker, TSS member, assures us that it is accurate though he has no way of showing us any material proof for it. [1] --Ultima 00:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
You do realise that forum posts aren't reliable sources, right? -- Steel 00:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
It's a better confirmation than some things. The best is obviously an official statement. Btw, apparently someone changed the name back to 'Mephiles' again. I didn't do it, though. Though forum posts aren't really reliable, there are three people who insist that they were told that his name is Mephil(il)es. --Ultima 15:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Where does it OFFICALLY say that Sonic and Shadow are being voiced by Jason Griffith?

A source would be appreciated, but this is obviously just pure speculation! --Hero of legend 12:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not. I continuously keep on trying to move them (and Elise) into the 'Rumored/Expected' section. No official source states it, but it's still likely. However, it still shouldn't be referenced until confirmed. As for Elise, nothing states anything about her actor--they are assuming she is played by Veronica Taylor by her voice. Eggman is obviously Mike Pollock (his voice gives it away), but for her, it can't be determined who she's played by. It sounds like either Veronica Taylor or Bella Hudson, but it's still purely speculatory. --Ultima 18:15, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

The Fourth Hedgehog

I know some of you IPs would like to add this "name" to the Fourth Hedgehog's section but please read this:

Sonic Cult is NOT enough proof that his name is...that name. I knidnly add that you do not add it until an official souce is provided that states his name is Melphhiss...or how ever it's spelled. -Sukecchi 21:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Sonic CulT and OneClassyBloke both stated it. Two SSMB members claim to have heard info about it (one being a staff member) from OCB, while Tweaker also referenced another source which he doesn't want to disclose at this time. Btw, it's Mephiles. He's also referred to as 'Mephililes,' though it could be a typo (either one). It's not solely Sonic CulT stating this. Oh, and you accidentally added too many equal signs in that title. For adding a brand new one, it should only be two--three is for doing a sub-section. Four is for a subsection of a subsection. --Ultima 01:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
We need official, published word from SEGA before this can be put up, regardless of how many unreliable sources may state it. Fansites, message boards, and individuals claiming to have "secret knowledge" do not constitute reliable sources (see WP:RS). –Prototime (talk • contribs) 20:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
After trying it once, I gave up. I felt that it was a good enough confirmation, but you are right. Though at this point it appears likely, it still shouldn't be listed as it's not an official confirmation. It's speculating that it's accurate. Until Sonic Team confirms it, it should stay off--like all the other posted stuff. Speaking of which, Blaze, Knuckles, and Tails haven't been confirmed yet... shouldn't they be removed from the expected voice actors? --Ultima 00:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I've removed them many times but people keep adding them back. >_< -Sukecchi 00:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
...iritating. I removed them again, and brought up a statement on why they shouldn't be posted. I doubt it'll keep them away, but it's better than nothing.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultima the Hedgehog (talk • contribs)
Frankly, I don't see the harm in including that it is RUMORED that his name is Mephiles if we include the source. It shouldn't be stated that that's the official name, just a rumor.
Of course, it looks like it DID state it like that at some point, but was later completely reverted because an editor "[didn't] even want to see 'Mephiles' ANYWHERE on here.". That, frankly, is just unrational... it's got a source from a fairly reliable site, so while it's not official, we can at least mention that it's rumored. --Shadow Hog 20:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Almost all rumored information has been removed from this article, just about. Besides, if we let Sonic-Cult in? Then we open the doors to lots of crazy/stupid rumors. So yeah... no. BlazeHedgehog 23:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
It's actually completely rational. I could start a rumor that the hedgehog's name is Bob, and put in on my personal website. Do you think that'd be deserving to be on Wikipedia? No, I just made it up, just like Mephiles possibly is as well, and if we strike down one rumour we must strike down them all. Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a rumour mill. –Prototime (talk • contribs) 00:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Considering your personal website likely wouldn't have access to industry insiders (I believe Cult still has some), there's a large difference. --Shadow Hog 02:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
What about One Classy Bloke, then? I trust his some of his information (though he does sometimes say outlandish things as a joke just to keep you on your toes), but the OCB information was banished from this article long ago, despite a considerable amount of it slowly coming true. BlazeHedgehog 03:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Come to think of it, didn't OCB's comment that the hedgehog had a hard-to-remember name that began with an "M" get somewhat verified with the Cult posting? Not that this helps my case any or really answers your question, but it's a thought. --Shadow Hog 03:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, if it mentioned starting with an "M" that could just easily be the reason people would make up that name. Either way, rumours are by the narmal people, not by the company. Why did you even have the rumour section to begin with? --Axidous 29, August 2006
OneClassyBloke himself even revealed the name as Mephiles (though there was actually an extra 'il' in between 'il' and 'es'). Axidious, Sonic CulT DOES find information well, and wouldn't take information from a random passerby. I highly doubt they'd believe someone who made up such a name. Besides this, who would think of a name like that? It's just too original. --Ultima 13:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, so they're gods now. Besides, company or a regular person, all they need to come up with a name like that is an "imagination" in case you've heard of one. Just because they have good ideas to make original stuff doesn't mean they are part of a company. Or maybe they plan to become part of Sega someday and just haven't yet. I could've made that name, I didn't, but could've. I make a lot of names for my series, especially if I want it to have better ratings. Look at Naruto. That's a name of a place off another person. That's not original and it's official. But you are kind of right. It's not like they called him Night, or AuqaStone, or that speculation about him being Black Doom. Why would Black Doom make himself look like a hedgehog for no reason even when he's an alien who has nohing to do with hedgehogs except that he helped create an artificial one (Shadow), but it's not like he came from one. Ha ha... I still remember that "XG" crap. Part of it was true though. --Axidous 30 August 2006

No speculation in the continuity section

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball

All the speculation regarding the continuity has been removed. This isn't the place for such things. Lengis 15:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Why is it called "not a crystal ball"? That's funny. Crystal ball. Even if it does help, and it is just the tittle, just imagine... what does a crystal ball have to do with anything? lol

Crystal balls are used to "See into the future" speculating is like trying to see into the future. -Sukecchi 18:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Video Game Box Artwork

Does anyone think we should put up the new box art that as been showing up lately?UnDeRsCoRe 19:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

New Game Cover

On the sega-europe.com their is a new game cover so maybe this the new game cover and their is a rating 12+ maybe T for Teen. Mr.Willison 8:15 23 August 2006

Don't count on it. Sonic Mega Collection Plus got a 12+ rating from PEGI. It also got an E rating from the ESRB and a U rating from the BBFC. This is presumably due to the 'fantasy violence' in Comix Zone, which PEGI clearly treats stricter than other systems do. If it isn't rated E, it'll be rated E10+.--Cyberdude93 02:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

CyberDude is probably correct. Mostlikely, this game will get an E-10+ rating. Remember, Shadow the Hedgehog got a 12+ rating also. However, it's ESRB rating was E-10+. --Ultima 12:49, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Plot Speculation

"Silver has also been seen fighting a lava creature possibly named "Disaster", which, in name and similarities, could somehow be related to Chaos" «--- speculation

"Unknown Lava Creature - who appears to bear many similarities to Chaos of Sonic Adventure. His name is rumored to be Disaster, but, like the fourth hedgehog/Mephiles, nothing has been confirmed yet." The name Disaster was given by the fans to identify him, these two "new" bits of information are uncyclopedic. If names allow relations then Silver and Rouge would be related...Czin 14:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, I don't know why they always refer to it as "Disaster." That's a pathetic name. Truly, I do believe that it's actually Iblis, but it may merely be the Flames of Disaster NOT Disaster. The Flames of Disaster is something that Eggman apparently gets from the princess, but we don't know what is. Truly, this shouldn't be even mentioned. For one thing, I don't even think that lava creature IS a 'character' in the game. I do believe that it's something Eggman created with the Flames of Disaster. Either way, though, it's still speculation. If these speculations pop up again, just remove them. We've been doing that for a number of speculations already. --Ultima 14:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Ha Ha told ya about the game cover wow I'm really good at this so how do i change or put it on the page? thanks Mr.Willison 29, Aug 2006 4:31

Rosxs 1/09/06- It's called Disaster because that's what fire is refered to in the bible. Just as water is chaos!

There is no such a thing as something called 'Disaster' in the game, or the Bible. There such a thing in THIS game called the Flames of Disaster, but the giant fiery creature is actually called Iblis (the filename of a screenshot of the fire creature on the SEGA FTP is Iblis). --Ultima 16:23, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Non-playable characters

Is it really necessary to mention the robots Sonic & Co. fight in this section? At least yet? If so then we need to mention the humans in the "town stages" aswell as the different types of robots seen until now (of the top of my head I remember 3 different ones)Czin 17:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Tails and Blaze

Has there been a confirmation I missed? I went to remove Tails from the list of Non-Playable characters (and both him and Blaze from Unconfirmed Voice Acting), only to find a previous statement (which I do believe I added in) about Tails, Blaze, Rouge, and Knuckles not being confirmed--to now say 'Knuckles and Rouge' have not been confirmed. Was this a spam effort, or have Tails and Blaze actually been confirmed? --Ultima 00:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Tails and Blaze haven't been confirmed. sonickenshin 04:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Silver VA Unconfirmed?

Pete Capella is not only listed on the website www.improvjam.com as working as Silver the Hedgehog, but also on Imdb.com. Just because he's not well known doesn't mean it isn't him.

A random guy claiming to be the voice actor doesn't cut it. We need a confirmation from Sonic Team. To my knowledge, the info on imdb.com is added like the information on Wikipedia. It ISN'T reliable. I've never been to improvjam.com, either, but it still isn't reliable. Unless we get a list of voice actors from Sonic Team which credits Pete Capella (or one of his other names), it cannot unconfirmed. The only reason Eggman is listed is because he is, without a doubt, voiced voiced by Mike Pollock. --Ultima 15:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Adding a higher res box-art?

http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/9452/sonicpackhr0ph7.jpg

A nice high-res boxart has been released. Resizing it so it comes under fair use won't be a problem, but it has some magazine's logo on it. Not sure if that'd count as fair use or not, so I was hoping someone could shed light if the policy allows it.

(Or if someone could Photoshop out the logo so it can't be noticed when resized, but I'm sure none of you would do that and tell us :-)

We really need something - boxart, screenshot, etc. - to replace the boxart on the page right now, it's ugly when resized and too small when it isn't.--Cyberdude93 19:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

...or someone can just add it unaltered *shrugs*--Cyberdude93 20:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Already done. UnDeRsCoRe 22:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm saving a copy of the old picture. That thing's somewhat decent evidence of a PC version existing... sadly, somebody decided to replace it with a low-res version of the tentative box-art, which really doesn't fit with the file name, nor does it let me use the same image elsewhere (not that I'm 100% sure where to use it). I mean, I suppose you can revert images, but still... --Shadow Hog 01:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
You mean the promotional one I uploaded? Ya, I know. Someone saved over it with a low quality box art. I'd revert it, but I don't know how to. UnDeRsCoRe 03:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
As I said above, maybe we should use the American PS3 cover, although it's not at hi-res. Once again, it's this: http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/ChaosAngelZero/SonicPS3cover.jpg ChaosAngelZero 14:43, 04 October 2006 (UTC)

New Actor List

Ok, that's strange, and half surprising... but I want to know where it came from. Can one of these hackers please post some sort of source? As far as Elise and Eggman goes, that's who I speculated for both. For Sonic and Shadow... what?! I'm going to look that up. Then for the 'F' and 'M' part. Now, I don't know who 'F' could be other than Fang or a new character (the latter is more likely), but 'M' could be Mephiles. I'd like some source, here, please! I won't delete it yet, though. --Ultima 14:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Even if they have a source. It's not credible. Unless Sega themselves states the voice acting, than we cannot take this seriously. UnDeRsCoRe 14:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
You sure? According to that, it came directly from SEGA's official gamesite. If we can get a picture of this on the gamesite (or even a link), that'll confirm it. Also, I looked up Marc Valeras and found nothing. However, I found quite a few things for Marc Valera, no 's' at the end. It's a rather unusual pick, but if this is the same person, than it's sounding pretty accurate. Strange, but accurate. (I myself always thought Elise was voiced by Bella Hudson, anyway.) --Ultima 14:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Maybe so. But then again, site hacking isn't exactly the best way to get information. And anyone can easily manipulate an image to mkae it seem so. I'm just saying, we should only count it as "confirmed" if Sega states. Regardless, of hacking. UnDeRsCoRe 14:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

You know, manipulating pictures is easy and you shouldn't always believe what yuo hear and see but you also should automatically disbelieve something. It's so strange it is best to just say "is that what you say, then let's find out soon". Or something. But Photoshop? I'll tell you now, I don't even have Photoshop and I'll be honest, I've never even heard of it until about 8 months ago, but I can still edit pictures to make them look real, and if I'm the one who edited it then I WILL tell you unless I didn't do it. I honest. Axidous 2 Sept 2006

I removed the hacked information a bit earlier. To whoever put this information on the page: not only does information on Wikipedia have to come from credible sources (and most importantly be cited, which the hacked information was not able to be cited), the information has to come from published sources. Hacked material is, obviously, not published, and should remain off Wikipedia. See WP:Verifiability and WP:RS for more information on this. –Prototime (talk • contribs) 17:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Wot, No Wii?

Is there any hope of this game coming out for the Nintendo Wii? Raccoon Fox • Talk • Stalk 16:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

It's unknown if a port will be relased as no information has been revealed, as of yet. But it may be invetibal. UnDeRsCoRe 16:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

No. There is no wii port for this game dudes! Besides, if there was, wouldn't you have a hard time contrlling the caharacters in a game like this for a controller like that. Axidous 4 Sept 2006

You don't know if there's a port. They make one like 2 years after. I mean, they're make a PC port for riders. So maybe a WII port of Sonic 2006 maybe possible UnDeRsCoRe 23:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Woah, off topic, but a PC port of Riders? Where did that info come from? I.M.Fearless 11:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, first, Sonic Riders for PC was shown on the list at Sega's official site reccently (skipping Sonic Wild Fire which was changed back to Sonic And The Secret Rings as it's now official name). Now, I know the 2006 from Sonic 2006 is not officail and all but if they make a port 2 years later for the Wii the it would be Sonic 2008. Besides I know because they already said that there wont be. By they, I don't mean fans. Axidous 7 Sept 2006

Wait.... what? Roybertito 23:43, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Crush 40?

Does anyone know if crush 40's music will be in the game?

WE DON'T KNOW! I don't think that the talk pages should be used for asking stuff like this, either. --Ultima 12:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
There's no harm in asking, but yelling and being disruptive is. Inforazer 20:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

There's a rumor going around right now that Crush 40 is going to be making their own version of the song His World. SEGA will choose then between Crush 40 or Zebrahead. User:Sonicxtreme

Chao Garden?

I'm reading the artical on this game, and it says rings can be used to buy things in the black market, in the Chao Garden. Is this just an example on what type of things they could be used on, or is a Chao Garden actually in this game? I'm sure I remember Sega annoucing that SA2:B would be the last ever Sonic game to feature a Chao Garden.

Thanks in advance.

Like the Chao Garden. It is used as an example. There is no Chao garden in this game. BlazeHedgehog 20:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


Extracting info

A new trailer has been released, I have already added the only thing I think is worth noting, but I would like a second opinion. The trailer is available at Gamespot. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/sonicthehedgehog/media.htmlCzin 02:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

We should try extracting info from the Japanese Gamesite. One partial translation has already been made, revealing some stuff about Shadow's story in the game (and confirmed the name 'Mephiles'). The trailer brings a lot of speculation, but no confirmations... well, it does reveal that Eggman has a new ship in this game. We could probably note that. --Ultima 16:28, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I discovered this from the recent announcement from Sonic Stadium: [2]. At the start, you'll see the E10+ rating has been confirmed (don't knnow if this has been confirmed already).

Japenese Gamsite

I can't find the character page on the Japenese Gamesite could someone give me a link or tell me how to get there because when I go to the Site it Shows Sonic Running and nothing else.

Hey, I don't even get that. All I get is the "Now Loading" dialog. Knuckles sonic8 00:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, it won't load properly for me, either. I have seen screenshots of the character page, though. Yes, all the characters are listed, and yes, it is the speculated ones. Even Blaze and Omega are there--and it had been confirmed to be them. I'm still trying to get on there, too. --Ultima 13:48, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

A way to see the pages is to for example choose "Characters" in the bottom, then choose any other section like "About Game" and then come back to "Characters" everything in the website works this way for me all you have to do is visit the place you want once, go to a different one and return and it will work.

Actually I tried that yesterday after Iw as having that problem and it worked. Knuckles sonic8 23:00, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Mephiles

I was wondering how you pronounce Mephiles? MindWraith 07:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know, either. I'm guessing that it's pronounced Mef-i-lees, but I'm not sure. --Ultima 13:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


Japanese

Does any one know or anyone that speaks or can read japanese on that crappy website. It wont tanslate arghh Mr.Willison 20:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

It can't be translated because it's flash, not text. Anyway, just look on the main article, everything from the site is on it already. MindWraith 04:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)


Just to state something, the Official Japanese website as prevented a misconception which is the following: "Soleana" was previously written "Soreana" (as previusly seen in the nav bar as "Soreana News"), this was obviously because in japanese the "r" is often said "l", so there will be no misconceptions on Soleana's name, as they themselves have it now writen with an "l".

Sorry for stating this, but it is just to prevent any mistakes of which way of writing is more correct or oficial.Czin 20:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


Buying ablity

in the jap website shadow is seen holding an energy type attack choas spear? maybe an attack u can buy. Mr.Willison 16:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I do believe that it IS Chaos Spear. However, that's not how it works. Shadow starts off with Chaos Spear. The upgrades he buys are upgrades for his vehicles. --Ultima 14:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

His World... Gone?

I saw on the page that the song from the JPN Website was removed. I wonder why... The only reason I could think of is that maybe people were ripping it but I don't think that's it. Still, they shouldn't have removed it just like that with no explanation. (Knuckles_sonic8)

There are two possible explanations to this...well, make it three, but I doubt it's the third. First--your answer. They didn't want people ripping it (too late). Second, the theory that I find best, the song was so high-quality that it bogged down the site (AKA, made it run slowly). A number of people have seen the site running slowly, and it's highly possible that it was for that reason. Third--SEGA decided to remove it because people didn't like it. For this one, I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt that it is the case. Since when has SEGA listened to the idiotic fans, anyway (Thank God!)?! If you want a version of the song, I have it uploaded to my website. I'll send ya' a link if you want... but let's do it in an email. --Ultima 14:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks but I got it already. Knuckles sonic8 01:24, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Whats the big deal ?

On the main article of this game someone stated tails being a playable character and said there's a picture of him on the main japanese website. I dont see anything.

The picture hadn't been added yet. Sonic Team was about to add a new page, and someone managed to uncover the page that had the screenshot. Links to the screenshot was posted, now (not on the gamesite, though). Oh, yes, and I was the one who posted that piece of info. Someone added links to the screenshot, now (along with a second one). --Ultima 14:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
It's a great find! Knuckles sonic8 01:25, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


But he isn't a playable character.Czin 12:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
And that's not Tails pictured in that gameplay screenshot? --Ultima 20:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I haven't seen any screenshot with him, and even if he is there, he is just an npc like any citizen of Station Square in Sonic Adventure.Czin 22:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
http://membres.lycos.fr/spinattack2/Sonicautres/action04_04.jpg BrokenBeta [talk · contribs] 16:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, you can tell it's not a CG cut scene even though the graphics re really good now because he doesn't have that flexible and blurry look, but maybe it's an in-game cut scene, like the one that they mainly had in SA and SA2.

I say he's playable SEGA did say non-playable character's will appear in town stages, but they also said that most characters can be unlocked in that game.

Character Confusion

I recently removed a part of the article. It read:

"

Rumouered characters

"

I felt it should be removed - there are so many rumors flying around about the characters that will appear it's not even funny. Knuckles sonic8 19:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

His World...Back...Sorta

So everyone is aware, the song, HIS WORLD, is now back except it's only an instrumental version now (kinda like the one on the American site). Knuckles sonic8 20:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

But is it up for download? If so were?Czin 22:42, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

His World returns on September 19th

Zebrahead stated on a previous radio interview on the 13th that they are currently recording the full version of the song. Instead of only Ali and Matty recording the song it will be the entire band.

Just because they are doing it on that date, it doesn't mean that SEGA of Japan is going to put it on the site right away. Oh, and according to that interview (or maybe it was a separate interview, I don't know) the new version will be rock as opposed to rap. --Ultima 19:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

It is returning just in time for the tokyo game show taking place next week it is most likely that they will have another demonstration. But your right maybe not but its most likely because of what Zebrahead had said at the interview. But I hope it comes back.

voice actors continued

If sega is using Lacey Chabert as the voice for the princess, then there might be hope that sega might rehire Ryan and David as the voices for Sonic and Shadow because Lacey isnt a part of 4kids entertainment.

Either that or she's new to 4kids. Or maybe if they change Jason it wouldn't mean the return of Ryan but maybe a new Sonic voice. But it sounded like Jason in the latest trailer, but the sound quality on his voice made it sound like he was talking through a walky talky. I mainly hope they at least return David cause Jason is even worse at Shadow than at Sonic. In the beginning at least it sounds right but Shadow's voice was too plain and in the next season it was better for the cartoon but when it was the same for the game he did better but not good enough. Shadow's accent just isnt easy to immitate and is one of a kind, mainly from SA2.

Sorry mate...Griffith told me himself (Myspace) that he was doing the voice.While at first I didn't like him, I thik in this game he has improved...VASTLY.

and in Sonic And The Secret Rings. He probably did better because of different writters. Not to mention his acting accent is to fit the look on Sonic's face. The new games are giving him more expresion, in Sonic X he was a lirrle plain and dull except, like I said before, in the beginning. I knoe that all the Sonic characters are to be voiced by their VAs from Sonic X. I remember that contract thingy. It'll be at least up till near the end of the year in 2009 before they change again. The only characters who can be voiced outside the 4kids cast are characters who've never been on Sonic X. Characters like Jet, Elise, Silver, Black Doom, Blaze, GUN Commander... they can still be changed since there "official" voices aren't exactly official. But if you listen to the Japanese version you can here how the new characters would've sounded since the english and Japanese games were closer. Though in SA2 in Japanese it did sound like Sonic X tried to make them sound more like the japanese version. In Japanese, Shadow's voice was plain and deep, like Sonic X, Tails sounded like in Sonic x, Knuckles' voice was more rough, like Sonic X, and Rouge's voice was deeper, like sonic x.

Sorry for going a tad bit off topic, but do you get my point? Axidous 17 September 2006

How come each time I go on the sega europe site it doesnt finish loading

Someone please help me

For those of you that miss "His World" here's where its available

Copy this link and paste it to your web browser or click it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RlXBjl79Y_g