Talk:Sonic and the Secret Rings

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[edit] Reception

The section talks too much about criticism, and should give more information about what reviewers liked about the game, such as "sticks to the 2D roots" or something. It really doesn't make me want to buy the game anymore. But that's aside the point, it would help if someone would add more information that I suggested. Legedevin 19:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, I think there isn't enough of the article dedicated to criticism. This was the worst excuse for a game I've ever had the misfortune to play. This was rushed out so that Sega would have a launch title for the Wii, and it shows. fraggle 10:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thats one persons opinion. Fortunately, it doesnt amount to anything. MindWraith 03:54, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm hardly the only one. fraggle 12:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

That link says the 'pros' give it average, and the public gave it 7.4. So yeah, not may people disliked it. MindWraith (talk) 08:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shahra's Voice Actor

Is it at all possible that the voice of Shahra, in the US release, is actually B.J. Ward? Normally I wouldn't bother trying to argue with the provided list of voice talent, but she sounds EXACTLY like the same actress that voices Princess Allura from Voltron. I mean, right down to certain vocal mannerisms. I'm probably wrong, but damn if it's not close. -- 70.90.242.184 13:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Main series

How could this not be in the main series huh —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.29.176.33 (talk) 15:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

The reason this game is not listed as part of the main series is because this game is designed as an experiment of Sega to see what kind of controls they could use for Sonic games released for Wii. 58.174.98.29 (talk) 06:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I never heard that before. Could you give a source? MindWraith (talk) 08:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I didn't find that out. It's just a guess realy. 58.174.98.29 (talk) 10:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
So this isn't worth putting on the main page. 58.174.98.29 (talk) 11:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
The game is just a small enclosed story line, it doesn't do anything to forward the sonic the hedgehog series.  Doktor  Wilhelm  12:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cronological or written accident

An intresting thing to note is that on the back of the game box it has a short summary of the game and what sonic is up against, but the last line clearly mentions "but sonic has never fought a genie before". This is incorrect becasue in the game sonic riders the final boss the babalon guardian was a genie. This ither makes the content on the back of the game incorrect or places it croniogicaly before sonic riders which dosent seem very likely becasue sonic games are often placed in the cronilogical order that they are made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.211.57.4 (talk) 16:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

On the same topic, according to the oficcial sega website, this is Sonic's first solo game since 1992 (Sonic the Hedgehog). However, I disagree. Sonic's last solo game was in 1995 (Sonic 3D Blast). And I don't even think this is a solo game, because Sonic is acompained Shara. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.174.98.29 (talk) 10:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sega Project Assessment

Hi, I'm here from WP:SEGA/A. I'm here on behalf of the project to assess the article and tell you what I think. As with all of my assessments, we'll go over what needs improvement and then we'll discuss a rating.

So here's some things that need some work:

  • Large sections of the article are unsourced.
  • I don't know about the character section, it appears to be an embedded list.

Basically, the sourcing is your issue. Anyway, the article does meet the Sega Project's B class standards, so I will change the tag. If you've got questions or comments, feel free to contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Red Phoenix flame of life...protector of all... 15:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject videogame assessment

(Edit conflict, you get two assessments for the price of one) A request was made at wikiproject videogames for assessment. As a result I've rated the article B-class for the videogame project, importance rating remained the same. This article has many of the components needed for passing Good Article status, though not all, and needs further work. Here's some suggestions for future improvement:

  • The lead will need expansion, but that's something that can wait until the article is complete.
  • The game's soundtrack needs to be covered here or in a separate article with a pointer to it (I've had a quick look and can't see an article for it on WP). The music details could do with their own section (with details of the soundtrack either way), what's being described are typical details surrounding soundtrack rather than a look at the development of the music.
  • 'Control' doesn't need to be a sub-section of gameplay, it's a fundamental aspect of play but doesn't need paragraphs of detail. Instead I'd suggest merging 'modes' into gameplay, with a subsection for the multiplayer game. Everything concerning 'adventure mode' (the core game), including controls, can go in the main section. The controls and other details of the multiplayer could then go into the subsection of gameplay. 'Special Book' is a minor aspect of the whole and doesn't need a section of its own.
  • 'Plot' - seems complete but is devoid of citations, that's going to trip up the article's chances of advancement. Could possibly do with splitting into two paragraphs?
  • Staying with plot, there's a couple of redundancies: "(probably as a blindfold)" doesn't need to be said. "(reads 2:55 a.m.)" Why is this relevant?
  • 'Reception': "Overall, critics generally found that the game, while its controls and mission structure were frustrating at times, was a step in the right direction for the series and a return to its simple and fast gameplay mechanics.[31][32][33][34][35]" this is a broad statement which belongs in the first (overview) paragraph, with no more than two cites after the statement.
  • Reception could do with a little expanding, the controls are covered well but the graphics and sound aspects could do with more attention.
  • Sales figures - excellent, try and find more.
  • Review scores - consider using the standard VG review box.
  • Writing is weak in places. For example: "Many of these characters are new to the franchise; Arabian Nights mysteriously appearing to look like established characters in the franchise without explanation." The Arabian Nights are stories, not characters. The 'appearing...' part needs some rewording, 'without explanation' doesn't need to be said. There's several other examples throughout the article, spend some time just reading it over and they'll pop up.
  • References - please expand the web citations into a fuller 'cite web' format giving publisher and author details etc. They need accessdates.
  • The scanned Knuckles picture - whilst images have to be low resolution, the image quality is poor, are there no screenshots of the series regulars in Arabian garb floating around the web?

All that said, the article has developed well and must have taken considerable time and effort, thank you for what you've done. Someoneanother 16:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)