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Contents 1 Reply 2 Question 3 Template:Pic of the day/Image archive ? 4 Wiki Junior Project 5 Using talk page 6 Libertarian socialism 7 Libertarian capitalism 8 NPOV - anniversaries 9 featured pictures 10 Thanks but ... 11 Just so you know 12 Fresh FM 13 KNÄCKEBRÖD 14 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 15 Thanks for dealing with the userpage vandalism 16 Help Please 17 BIG HELP 18 Pic of the day archive 19 Did you know 20 Main Page 21 Atlantis 22 Wikipedia:Fact of the Day 23 News 24 Nomination 25 Aisha 26 Sistine status 27 Goatse.cx 28 My Dad 29 goatse.cx fallout 30 Zuiderzee Works 31 NPOV tag on MIT page 32 Comments on "AIDS" page? 33 Yanukovych image 34 MacGyverMagic for adminship 35 yushchenko 36 Solitude for adminship 37 Tudhoe / Tudhoe Village 38 Voting for a featured picture 39 168.209.97.34 40 FA Scores

[edit] Reply

Then show me a example of copyright tag, please. User:Chan Han Xiang

Give me half an hour please.

Thanks, User:Chan Han Xiang

It's done. Please reply to indicate that you have already seen the copyright tag. User:Chan Han Xiang

• Hello, the picture is from Yahoo movies and they are not the first hand owners. All yahoo images are free. Thanx:User: Chan Han Xiang

[edit] Question

Solitude, please follow this link to Sung Hi-Lee and help me. According to the Korean names, she is Lee Sung-Hi in the Revised Romanization, Hangul and Hanja. However, sources state that her name is Sung Hi-Lee. Thanks and please reply, User:Chan Han Xiang

Dear Solitude, Have you heard about the case of the murder of Hung Na in Singapore? If you don't, never mind. If you do, do you know of any websites that has photographs of her dead corpsse? Please help if you know. Thanx. user:Chan Han Xiang

[edit] Template:Pic of the day/Image archive ?

Do you know what has happened to Template:Pic of the day/Image archive ? I still intended to update it and perhaps turn it into a montage of Featured pictures, instead of POTDs (pretty much the same set of images at this time. thanks to your automation!) - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 15:50, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It is back (for a while it was not available, so I posted the question). I'll save off a local copy just in case. - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 16:54, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki Junior Project

We are currently in the process of deciding what the first topics will be. We have already decided that the first humanities topic will be Countries of the World:South America. We need to decide what our first science topic will be. We already have plenty of pictures available for Big Cats, The Solar System and Human Flight. We're having a little vote to decide which one we should work on first. Please come to Meta:Wikijunior project first topics. Cheers! Theresa Knott (Not the skater) 07:47, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Using talk page

My point at Libertarian Socalism was that I had already put discussion down, I was responding to discussion and then this 195 ip just comes in and starts constantnly reverting, saying my talk doesn't even deserve a reply. The only way I know to deal with that is just revert him backChuck F 13:34, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Libertarian socialism

User:Chuck F is a vandal. He insists on inserting his POV into every article with the word "libertarian" in it and removing any information he does not like. He has vandalised countless pages and caused them to be protected. He has shown time and again that he will not listen to reason and reality. Look at the edit histories of libertarianism, Liberal Democratic Party of Australia. He has not changed his behaviour or apologised. He refuses to do anything but revert something he doesn't like. He's now trying it with [1]. This may show that he's about to move out from pages on libertarianism to vandalise at random. Please, if you can do anything to stop him, do it. 195.92.67.71 13:46, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

your point would probly go over better if you weren't the counter-party in all thoese pages and the other reason they were protected, and leda.jpg is the wrong image up there, I'm trying to revert it back but it's not really working too well for some reason, if you could fix that solitude it would be nice Chuck F 13:44, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Except that all I've ever done is remove your POV vandalism from pages. 195.92.67.71 13:46, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

User:Chuck F is already listed on Requests For Comment and on Requests For Arbitration. It has done no good - he is still vandalising any mention on the word libertarian that he doesn;t like. He should be banned from those pages. 195.92.67.71 13:50, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Libertarian capitalism

User: Chuck F is at it again. Over the past few days he has reverted edits by User:Improv, User:Reithy, User:Fubar Obfusco, and several ips. None of his reverts were justified. He refused to discuss, he refused many offers of compromise. There's just no reasoning with him. He clearly has no interest in contributing, he just wants to vandalise pages until everyne gives in to him. So I have no choice but to revert. 195.92.67.71 13:57, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV - anniversaries

I am inclined to disagree with your reversion. I believe that the change to "communism" is a POV statement, or at least an incorrect statement, expecially considering that communism itself has never been achieved.

From Wikipedia: Communism:

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A better term for "communist states" would be "states ruled by communist parties". But that name is generally considered too long to be practical. Another term could be "Stalinist states", since all of them were governed by communist parties that were either clearly Stalinist themselves or could trace their roots back to Stalinism. 204.60.171.230 13:00, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Here it is. It's quite a long article though Stalinism in Eastern Europe:the Rise and Fall of the GDR. I think this bit is most likely the most relevent though:<cut>204.60.171.230 13:17, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Not only is the White House not the most reliable source of information (considering that for fifty years its primary determination of the morality of its actions was anticommunism), but the claim that the fall of the Berlin Wall represents a repudiation of communism is a pro-capitalist POV. You also seem to have a bias against Marxism, as noted in your edit summary on my talk page (commy) 204.60.171.230

I took a look at your user page history. I too, am a supporter of democracy, despite what you may think. 204.60.171.230 15:21, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Why do we continue to say that a communist state has never existed? Kerala in India is a communist state. Communist State does not mean utopia. That is the dream, not the communist state. Viva Democracy.

[edit] featured pictures

I jsut wanted to drop a suggestion for when we move featured pictures from the canidates page to the final. First let me say that, having done 2 yesterday, I learned how much work that is. I would like to see us copying the voting to the discussion page of the picture itself rather than deleteing it. In the long run, this would help us to clarify what was actually voted on and what was put on the featured pics page by a user that didn't actually read the section about us voting on pictures. Also, this could help in the delisting process by knowing by what kind of margin a pic made it onto the list in the first place. I did this with the 2 I moved yesterday if you want to see what I am talking about. Once again, I appriciate all your hard work. Cavebear42 17:17, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I didnt know about the archive. It looks like you took care of it for me. Thanks for that. My only other concern then would be when I find a pic such as

that has no link to the archive, should I be removing it from the featured pictures? Cavebear42 17:57, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks but ...

Thanks for your kind comments on this IP address's user page, and the "hello" stuff, and what have you. I have indeed amended Lord Chancellor as the "ministry" usage was going to drive me bonkers, so thanks for that. With regard to the rest, the trouble is that I am not a newbie so much as an ex-wikipedian trying to give it up through the dreaded Cold Turkey method: I am trying - mostly successfully - to stay off my user account and to no longer edit things. So although I have changed one or two things really it's better that I don't, hence my reluctance to get involved. I do still quite often use the wiki as a reference source and it's when I see things like this that I am most in danger of getting re-addicted! :) So thanks, and I do very much appreciate the kind thought, but I shall still be trying to stay away! Best wishes from Some IP Address Or Other ... 82.35.17.203 19:04, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Just so you know

I wanted to take a moment and thank you for your efforts in tracking vandals, reverting, leaving the appropriate messages on their talk pages and listing them on ViP. By the time of day (night, actually) that I check ViP, the ones you've listed have stopped vandalizing. I figure they either got tired of it and quit or, more likely, another admin has already blocked them because you put the spotlight on them. I just wanted you to know that your efforts are much appreciated. Thank you. SWAdair | Talk 04:38, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Fresh FM

It is not vandalism, it is truth. The truth. Your removal of the truth and replacing it with social elitist propaganda? That's vandalism.

FOR THE LAST TIME, I AM NOT VANDALISING THE ENTRY. YOU ARE. I AM POSTING TRUTH. YOU ARE POSTING PROPAGNDA, YOU ARE VANDALISING. User:202.45.121.254

[edit] KNÄCKEBRÖD

STOP DELETING MY MESSAGE ON "KNÄCKEBRÖD", THAT IS NOT SPAM AND IT'S HIGHLY RELEVANT! DON'T MESS WITH THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT!!! User:192.121.234.102

• LOL! For the record, I checked that one out. Once again, thank you Solitude. Hehe... Track the vandals, catch the flak.  :-) SWAdair | Talk 11:46, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Oh, good. About time. The present article makes me ashamed to be an alumnus. It makes me feel that I graduated from a school full of vain, insecure braggarts. I tried to do something about this earlier but was met with so many reactions of "why do you hate MIT so much" that I sort of gave up. In my day part of the campus culture was that you did not brag about MIT; I don't know whether that has changed or whether the article selectively attracts the sort of alums who flaunt their brass rats. Expect to get flamed. In fact I expect that I will probably be flamed for these encouraging words. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 15:41, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for dealing with the userpage vandalism

I'm grateful for that. And a bit sorry for causing you the trouble; I had provoked that vandal previously, which wasn't very smart but damn if it didn't feel good. In any case, you don't know you're a real wikipedian before your user page is defaced.. whee! -- Kizor 21:26, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Help Please

Hi Solitude. I hate to be bothering you as you are obviously busy, but I was wondering if you could help me out. When editing a page how do you get the little message in the history saying what you did? Also if there are any other little tricks like this can you please tell me. Thanks --Fir0002 01:33, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] BIG HELP

Solitude, I don't know what happened but i went to add in a new Feature Picture and after i saved it was all gone. All of the feature picture information. I really really didn't mean it. You're an Admin aren't you? Can you please put it back. I am really sorry. --Fir0002 10:37, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks again solitude. I dont know what was happening last night, but Featured Picture page did not load up the feature pictures only the pictures for removal. I thought i had done something wrong because it happened after I had edited the page to add a new picture. But thanks its working fine now. --Fir0002 22:20, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Pic of the day archive

I noticed that shortly after I created FPT, but the two pages are slightly different. PotD archive will have pictures that have had their FP status revoked, and won't have pictures that are yet to be made PotD. I could be useful for ordering FPT into chronological order, which would be useful than alphabetical, and once that is done, redirect. ed g2s • talk 13:20, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

I notice you archived a did you know fact, because the Main Page was unbalanced. I find the In the News section a bit large, but it's protected. Do you know why? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 10:36, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! :-) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 10:55, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page

What did I broke in the today's featured article template that you reverted? I think wrapping the text would be a good use of otherwise wasted space. Now the left table is pushing the right one away. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 12:46, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

But using the none tag disallows the floating coded in the header. I think we should keep none, left or right out all together when div is doing the aligning. BTW, Main page talk has been vandalized again, why can't I revert that? Do you have a problem with selected anniversaries running of the right side of the table? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 12:53, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

Hmmm, I guess it's a problem with the machine and browser settings I'm using. I've tried a PC with a larger screen and there was no problem, but it persists on this Mac. Maybe it's a screen size problem. What are you using? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 13:12, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Atlantis

Much obliged for pointing out my mistake. I had consulted Google News, and only found the New York Post which is not exactly what I would call a legitimate news source. After a reconsultation, I see that other outlets have picked up the story in the last several minutes. And no, I don't consider CNN a tabloid. But could you give me a link to the Dutch website? I'm not doubting you; I just want to see things from a non-American perspective. -- The King Of Gondor (call me Dale) 13:05, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

Gracias, señor. Very interesting. -- The King Of Gondor (call me Dale) 13:30, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Fact of the Day

I've also started my own little project to draw attention to articles that can't be put in many other cateogries. Please consider taking a look, or add {{FOTD}} to your talk page. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 13:12, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks again! I could use some additions so we have enough facts for the next 3 days. :) BTW is there a page where you can find the size of an article without copying and pasting and all that? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 13:31, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] News

This is a confirmed story, not a rumor. It has been confirmed by CNN. Also, I just like to keep my talk page neat. People can look at the history if they really want. --Xinoph 15:23, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination

I've found you very helpful the several times I've run into you. You als explained your actions in a friendly manner and you've be quite encouraging - at least to me. I'm thinking of nominating you for adminship. Would you accept the nomination if I did? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 15:55, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

This CNN article seems very certain, but I agree - we can wait until later in the day. Xinoph 17:13, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Aisha

Sure :)) .. but would you like to comment on the dispute? Compare my version and his. My version presents both views on top (about her age). This guy's version doesn't even mention the contradictory evidence or views till the very end. Also, would you examine 168.209.97.34 history?... see ALL his contribution from the beginning to a page that relates to Islam. He has been adding the words like "rape" "terrorist" or adding out of context verses ... see Talk:Jihad ... Do you have a solution for this problem? OneGuy 10:28, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You don't need to know Islamic history to comment on it. All you need to do see that this vandal (he has a history of vandalizing Islamic page as you can check) is trying to hide the contradictory evidence at the very end by not even mentioning it. If you read my version, both sides are presented on the top .. just read both version OneGuy 10:38, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, that's a minor point. I will add that hadith without problem. That was not my objection. The issue is that his version doesn't even mention there is contradictory evidence till very end. Mines mentions that Aisha was six at top according to her narration. His version doesn't mention contradictory evidence till very end. Anyway, I will add that missing hadith ... I didn't see that as important because that one comes from Bukhari too like the rest of them OneGuy 10:50, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Yes, read both. You will see that he wants to hide any contradictory evidence till the very end. He doesn't mention it anywhere till the end. I clearly mention that according to Aisha's quotes in Bukhari she was six on top, unlike him. Also, as I said, check the long history of this user (the older ones before reverts) ... he has a history of making the articles anti-Isllamic POV, like adding the word "terrorists" "raped six years" etc., OneGuy 11:10, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Please read both sets of quotes... it is very clear that one set is very precise and to the point.. His quotes sounds a lot like a defence lawyer trying to get a guilty man off (ala OJ Simpson trial). Furthermore, I have already put in a request for mediation... had no reply yet. see Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation User:168.209.97.34

[edit] Sistine status

There is some discussion whether Image:Sistine.chapel.entire.500pix.jpg is really GFDL as it was taken from artchive. Seeing you uploaded the image, can you confirm it is indeed GFDL, same for Image:Sistine.left.600pix.jpg. From what I can find: NOTE: The images, text and articles included at this site are for private, non-profit use only. Other usage is strictly prohibited. This would make the immages non-commercial only. Thanks
Hi from Adrian. I agree with you, it is not a GFDL image so sadly it should be removed from Featured Pics and perhaps from the article itself. I'll leave it to yourself or others to make the necessary moves. Thanks for calling my attention to the problem - Adrian Pingstone 16:14, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

To be honest, I wouldn't be so sure that artchive.com actually owns the copyright. Their Image Use page makes it pretty clear that they've picked up their images from anywhere and everywhere and are mostly claiming fair-use, whilst being careful if a copyright owner gets in touch. I doubt they actually have the right to license anything. However, since they don't make the original source explicit in this case the image license is unclear. Michelangelo's frescos are clearly copyright expired, so Image:Sistine.left.600pix.jpg is plausibly {{PD-ART}} (bit of a tricky one - frescos on curved ceiling are not quite a sculpture and not quite a non-creative reproduction of a flat work of art). The view of the whole chapel is more clearly copyright of the unknown photographer and possibly a copyvio. -- Solipsist 18:58, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Goatse.cx

I see you saw that horrible main page a bit back, Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/November 16, 2004 discusses the user's ban. -- user:zanimum

[edit] My Dad

Thanks for the kind words about my dad. Sometimes he could put a large idea in a little phrase. :) -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 19:30, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] goatse.cx fallout

Looks like the anon was telling the truth and WAS being framed. You need to retract that complaint. Speak to Jamesday for details. Also, see the Talk: page for the Main Page. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 21:34, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Zuiderzee Works

Hi!
Good work on the lead section, but could you include the info that the Amsteldiepdijk was constructed before the Afsluitdijk? I would like to do it myself, but I'm not sure, where in the lead it fits best. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 11:25, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

THanks! [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 12:17, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV tag on MIT page

User:MITalum removed the NPOV tag from Massachusetts Institute of Technology, with no discussion in the Talk section, and with a less-than-clear edit comment. I have put it back. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 23:40, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

• If you're still interested in this, please participate in the discussion in Talk:Massachusetts Institute of Technology. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 13:46, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Comments on "AIDS" page?

The reasons behind my posting of that comment which at this point I judge to be very offensive and inappropriate can be summarized by this diagram:

I hope that this clears a few things up.

I will refrain from using Wikipedia or heavy/sharp machinery after ingesting a large amount of that molecule in the future. I am very sorry. A person doesn't deserve to die because of one mistake. --NoPetrol 05:06, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Yanukovych image

I answered on my talk page. --Steschke 13:31, 2004 Nov 23 (UTC)

[edit] MacGyverMagic for adminship

I've decided to take the plunge and self-nominate for adminship to make the work I do a lot easier. Please head over to Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#MacGyverMagic and let your voice be heard. There's no hard feelings if you oppose, just make sure you let me know how I can improve. -- [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 10:27, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] yushchenko

It's definitely copyright, so if we can't claim fair use - you should list it on copyvio images and have it deleted. ed g2s • talk 13:26, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

There are a lot good free pictures of yushenko on commons. --Steschke 06:23, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)

[edit] Solitude for adminship

Would you like to be a sysop? I'd nominate you... Evercat 14:44, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tudhoe / Tudhoe Village

Hi. You dropped me a note to say that you had changed the "Tudhoe" entry to "Tudhoe Village". I don't really think that's a good thing. You could add "Village" to an awful lot of English placenames without changing the meaning much, and a major reason I added the article was so that already-existing links from things like the "list of placenames in County Durham" would actually go somewhere useful.

So that's my argument... User:JMHutson 16:00, 24 Nov 2004

[edit] Voting for a featured picture

Hi! I nominated my picture Fishermen on Lake Tanganyika for featured picture status - you objected on the grounds that the image was too small. Just wanted to let you know I uploaded the larger version (700px wide) from my web page, as several other people also thought the original image was too small. Thanks for your comments! Worldtraveller 22:14, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 168.209.97.34

Hi, I submitted an arbitration on this guy here. Let's see what happens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Current_requests_for_Arbitration

OneGuy 09:38, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] FA Scores

What exactly is the column COTW's for? Doesn't it merely show how long the project has been going on? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 10:42, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)